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Ariza 3p% - product of Wizards system?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by NL Rocket, Jan 1, 2015.

  1. RocketTownHou

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    Fear not. Ariza will get the feel for the 3 back in his game. It's his D that is valuable right now.
    I haven't checked his stats, but he usually gives us 10-15 ppg, except he had only 7 against the Spurs. He'll be OK. Just start D-Mo on the other side of Dwight.
     
  2. boiler

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    It's not his 3pt% but his overall fg% that is worrisome. Jimmy Butler is shooting 48.3% for the field. Trevor's fg% is simply not acceptable and needs to improve, not matter how you spin it.
     
  3. SF3isBack!!

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    Thats not a spin. Trevor Ariza gives his all on defense he is the reason our defense is so good this season. You cant play him that many minutes and expect him to shoot 40 from 3 and 45 from 2.
     
  4. pippendagimp

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    i got tired of reading the bs excuse that ariza's too tired to make wide open 3's now, so i listed his entire game log of makes and attempts from last year (his career year). he is just a wildly inconsistent shooter from whom you never know what you're going to get from nite to nite…enjoy:

    6-11
    1-7
    3-9
    3-4
    1-5
    1-2
    5-11
    0-1
    1-7
    2-6
    2-6
    5-6
    4-4
    5-10
    2-9
    1-2
    1-5
    1-2
    3-8
    5-8
    2-5
    4-6
    3-7
    1-7
    2-2
    0-5
    0-3
    2-7
    1-5
    3-9
    3-6
    2-4
    0-2
    1-4
    1-7
    4-6
    3-8
    6-10
    1-3
    0-6
    3-7
    4-7
    1-5
    2-5
    1-4
    1-6
    10-14
    0-2
    5-8
    0-1
    3-6
    5-5
    2-5
    8-12
    4-6
    4-6
    5-7
    1-7
    1-6
    4-8
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    2-8
    3-4
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  5. SF3isBack!!

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    You would think that if Mchale wants to get where Pop is that he would pay more attention to just how he got there. Pop plays deep into his bench all year and they do just fine in the playoffs.
     
  6. boiler

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    Then he needs to shoot less. He is currently taking second most shots per game behind Harden and hitting 36% of them.
     
  7. HamJam

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    So basically we just need to buckle up and hope he is on a shooting streak (similar to that he was on at the beginning of the season) during the playoffs.
     
  8. SF3isBack!!

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    The point is that he is not shooting as good as he was. There seems to be a lot of haters on here for Ariza, which is surprising and meaningless.
     
  9. pippendagimp

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    the thing is even in the playoffs it seems to be feast or famine with him from game to game…..last year's series against CHI & IND:

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    2-6
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    0-1
    6-6
    2-7
    2-6
    2-4
    0-2
    0-3

    he isn't having as many hot shooting games to bring his overall percentage up, but otherwise he's having basically the same number of duds where he can't hit the ocean. also, i'm not hating on him, i welcome his defense in the starting lineup. i just don't expect him to be a consistent shooter at any point when his body of work the past 10 years clearly indicates it's just not going to magically happen
     
  10. HamJam

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    Right, playoffs or not, it is always feast or famine with Ariza -- I get that and agree with you. I am just saying that, given his inherent unavoidable streakiness, we and the Rockets just have to hope he is having more of those hot nights mixed in with the cold nights during the playoffs, just like he was having at the beginning of this season.
     
  11. vlaurelio

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    well the thread clearly says 3pt FG% not 3pt consistency

    fyi last year in the playoffs Ariza's 3pt FG% was .446

    while last year harden, parsons, bev, and lin were .296, .361, .318, and .217

    and opponents think about your % when guarding you not your streaks
     
  12. Aleron

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    All 3 point shooting is wildly inconsistent, it's not like Steph Curry doesn't go from 6-8 to 1-10
     
  13. HamJam

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    I am not sure if anyone else has mentioned it, but Ariza is shooting a lot less corner 3's, percentage wise, compared to what he did with the Wizards last season. About 10% less.

    That right there, by itself, could be a big part about why he is shooting a worse percentage from three.
     
  14. roflmcwaffles

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    This would be glorious on offense, but our defense would struggle a lot with that switch.
     
  15. pippendagimp

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    ya i'm only bringing up consistency to show that it doesn't matter how many minutes he's playing or what time of year it is, he's been throwing up dud games regardless without any pattern/rhyme/reason that can be tracked. even from quarter to quarter in fact, his shooting is feast or famine. he's also started off games 0 fer a lot, and then been able to all of a sudden hit big 3's in the 4thQ (despite his legs being undoubtedly more tired than they were the first 3 Q's).

    you're right, but curry is also the engine for his team shooting off the dribble and bailing out possessions quite a bit. if we look at similar spot up wide open shooters like mike miller, novak, etc they do have less variation from game to game
     
  16. SF3isBack!!

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    Neither Mike Miller nor Steve Novak play a lick of defense, they also do not play heavy minutes. The year that Miller shot a career high 50% from three, he only played 22 mpg. The year that Ariza played 23 mpg is also his career year from 3 53%. Last year Ariza only played 35 minutes. Less minutes mean less shot attempts and also less shot attempts on tired legs.
     
  17. Rockets FTW

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    Trevor Ariza:

    In playoffs -
    52 Games and shoots .442% from 3pt line.

    Anything else to complain about?

    Yes, Wizards are doing good from the 3pt line, but please.... let's tone it down a tad. He will catch fire and when he does it just makes us better.
     
  18. scolandry1

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    He seems to be taking fewer corner threes than he did earlier in the season. I think he shot more corner threes for the Wizards than anywhere else.
     
  19. pippendagimp

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    38.2 min this season vs 35.4 min last season is the reason he's shooting 3's at 32.0% vs 40.7% and 2's at 42.9% vs 50.9%? sorry but i just don't see how those extra 2.8 min can be cause for such a drastic downturn.

    also which year did ariza shoot 53% on 3's? maybe you're talking about his 2006-07 season with orlando in which he shot 53.9% from the field overall because he shot no 3's that year?
     
  20. SF3isBack!!

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    I said his career high at 3, I never said it was last year. Clearly you have never played organized ball on any type of level. It makes a difference. This why people who aren't athlete's usually make bad sports commentators and journalists. Three minutes of rest can be huge, esp in the playoffs. YOU PLAY BETTER WHEN YOU ARE RESTED.
     

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