Argentina elects libertarian president Javier Milei - Update: Netherlands

You'd have to be as out of touch as a Libertarian to be surprised by this.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/a...na-ai-predicting-future-crimes-citizen-rights

 

This makes sense in terms of libertarian ideology. The freedom they refer to is with markets and exploitation of labor. They aren't referring to individual rights to things like due process when they refer to "freedom".

 

This doesn't strike you as authoritarian?

 

What does an extreme surveillance state look like, if not this?

 

It's as if more than one country can be authoritarian at the same time....



1. China -200 Million CCTV Cameras
2. United States 50 Million CCTV Cameras
3. Germany 5.2 Million CCTV Cameras
4. United Kingdom - 5 Million CCTV
5. Japan -5 Million CCTV Cameras
6. Vietnam 2.6 Million CCTV Cameras
7. France - 1.65 Million CCTV Cameras
8. South Korea 1 Million+ CCTV Cameras
9. Netherlands 1 Million CCTV Cameras
10. Australia - 1 Million CCTV Cameras

America isn't much better when accounting for per capita. The United States is a heavily survalianced state. If you ever watched any true crime videos you'd know. Most violent crimes seem to be easily solved from tracking CCTV so there obviously are some benefits.

 

It doesn't sound like more left-leaning, but more libertarian-leaning libertarians. If you like the abolishment of the right to a fair trial like in El Salvador, and if you like - I'll just quote it -

"machine-learning algorithms to analyse historical crime data to predict future crimes”. It is also expected to deploy facial recognition software to identify “wanted persons”, patrol social media, and analyse real-time security camera footage to detect suspicious activities"

You might not lean as far of a libertarian. @StupidMoniker do you think such a surveillance state, or a state without rights to fair trials is conducive to a relatively libertarian run society?

I don't know about you, but from my experience with right wing libertarians in Texas, is that they are definitely the most strongly skeptical/opposed to things like mass facial recognition and security cameras. You'd have to assume the body controlling such technology could never fray into corruption or injustice...

 

The president of El Salvador is doing a very common fascist tactic with law and order where they "solve crime" by imprisoning terminally perry criminals, poor people, people who don't follow traditional lifestyles etc and then say they solved crime.

It's fascism 101.

 

In terms of American libertarianism these removals of individual rights match with the American style of libertarianism as that style of libertarianism is mainly about the freedom to exploit labor and the environment. Not much advocacy in terms of things like criminal justice reform.

 

They don't work in the USA. The has slowed under EVERY US Republican President since Reagan. The problem is Conservatives focus on the RICH, thinking the wealth will "trickle down". It doesn't because the wealthy are GREEDY and expect the peasants to make money for the RICH for meager pay.

 

When did Argentina go downhill? After WW2 when all the Nazis showed up.

 

Firstly I quoted the part from the article at "which the legislation says" and not the opposition opinion. Secondly, I didn't make an argument about what would be "better for El Salvador", I posted some of my thoughts on that in the El Salvador thread though, what I said is that it's not conducive to libertarianism.