Are You Seriously A Rockets Fan???

I think a lot of teams around the league would trade their history for the Rockets. No, they haven't won a ton of titles, but the tradition is still there. Hakeem is one of the most revered players of the last 2+ decades, and he was ours.

 

And YOU'RE such a big Rockets fan, you joined ClutchFans LAST MONTH?

 

If we weren't real fans, we wouldn't even care to post stuff.

Of course, we will moan and complain just because we want to see our team doing well. That's what fans do.

 

How many teams haven't played the same way? Lot of teams out there play with heart and toughness, and still lose. That would make me proud of the team, but it's a stretch to call it a reputation over the course of 40+ years and include it under hall of famers and championships.

 

My problem is when people hold players in god like status. Athletes are only human. They dont pay your bills, they dont make you love your family, they cant keep your house from being foreclosed on, they cant do alot of things. If you read this board enough like i do and have been for some time, you would swear tracy was the anti christ,hitler,amin, and jim jones rolled into one. He's 1 guy on 1 team and he's here for as long as the rockets want him. When the rockets deem him no worthy of donning a uni, they will get rid of him just like they did dream, moses,cassell,horry and whomever else was traded off the roster. For too long now, posters have placed all their misery and happiness with what tracy is doing. I really dont understand how 1 person can effect a group of people emotional well being when just like other athletes, he doesnt give a ***** about you. Neither does yao,shane, rafer and all the other athletes that get paid millions. If they cared about people in general, we wouldnt have homeless people under the pierce elevated. i go there quite often to feed and clothe people and i've never seen a pro player there. I dont see les speaking up to china when he know they supply arms and guns to people creating genocide. Its just a money hustle and athletes are in it for the money. If the game wasn televised and the guys were making $20 a hour, how many would still be playing? Thats what i thought. The Rockets have been here for years and will be here for years. If they leave, so what, its just entertainment and a game. the oilers left and the city kpt breathing, so what so different. Some of yall just needs to grow up and worry about being a better father,husband,son or daughter instead of worrying about a guy that makes 21m and dont care about you. You think if you were stuck on the side of the road one of those guys would stop to help you? i didnt think so.

 

Since you know me so well, how do i feel about the Rockets?? Just because i disagreed with someone who states with a rich history of hallf of famers and championships?? I never stated we had no tradition, but that it wasnt as rich as he made it seem. I'm being realistic, so don't address me like i'm some of these kiddos who come in with knee jerk reactions or dont know their rockets' history. Do the two rings put Houston above the bottom franchises? Yes, but it also puts them below the top ones. I'm fully aware of the success we've had compared to to other teams. Teams often fall for years, maybe even a decade when they rebuild, and houston has been able to stay competitive most of the time, which is great, but it's not as rich as previously expressed.

There's a difference betweent he way fans see their team and what that team's true reputation is. Don't hate because I'm able to see both point of views.

 

Many sports teams are rich w/ tradition w/ out winning any (or very few) championships. The Chicago Cubs, Cleveland Browns, etc. come to mind.

The memories of fans is what keeps tradition going.

 

good post, you raise a lot of valid points. It's cool to be bummed out over your team, but in the end you have to realize it's still a game and can't kill yourself over it.

 

"We have not played with heart and toughness in the last 10 years".

Did you write something like that?

That is all I was debating....


btw, We are in the upper echelon as far as history goes with NBA teams...

A notch below the Lakers, Celtics...

 

I agree, but baseball and football are bad examples since they have been around a lot longer and therefore has had more time to reach more fans, as well as play more games, playoffs, etc. The cubs have probably been in a lot more dogfights in the playoffs or seasons.

 

Now that is way to rational of a post for GARM.

Fandom is irrational but as humans we are irrational in many ways and the love of sports and tying sports to local pride has been with us since the days of Odysseus.

I agree most of what we see here is overtop but for better or worse we love our sports teams.

 

I'm a Rockets fan and a T-Mac fan. I'm a huge fan of both.

But I also think the Rockets should just let Tracy have the surgery and move on. It's been a long journey together for both sides, but this thing has pretty much come to a close.

 

I disagree with some of what you said.


There is something to be said about a team that can unite a city, a group
that can defy odds, become true champions.

Their have been athletes in the past that have given us hope, and carried us through hard times. Athletes can be more than something tangible, they can be symbols.




Basketball is not just a game to me, It is so much more...

 

I enjoy the rockets and since i've been a fan since 77, i guess there is love, but my love for the rockets arent in the same boat as i have for god, my family and helping others. I've sent request to the rockets about helping the people under the bridges and stuff. It didnt have to be a tv event or anything like that, just honest help. Guess what i got? No response. Believe it or not, there are college educated people homeless. Over 50% of the shelters are filled with divorced women. Actually, i've given jobs to some of those women and overpaid them so they can provide for their kids.

I played college ball and have been part of sports for a long time, but in the end, its a game. The players are human and they have marital problems, insecurities, and some of the same issues regular people have. I dont put people on a higher level because they make a extra ordinary monetary amount. When its time to get put in the ground, money or fame cant bring you back. Its just crazy the emotional rage many have about players.

 

Get laid off and dont pay your mortage and see how important basketball is. Get a serious illness and the doctors bills are 20x what can handle and see how important basketball is. Now if you're 16 yrs old and dont have any responsibilitie, then i guess basketball means more. This team isnt breaking color barriers in a oppressive society like jessie owens and tommie smith/john carlos who by the way was stripped of their medals, theyre just hooping. Thats it.

 

i get what you're saying, but i actually wrote we haven't had a reputation of playing with heart and toughness in the last 10 years. All i was debating was what tin man wrote about the richness of hall of famers and rings and this so called reputation.

(this isnt directed at you but to everyone who responded)
1. Tinman made it sound like we have a lot of rings. We're barely able to say ringS. I was just pointing out we need to be more humble about that because although not many teams have 2 or more, it's not like we're that far off from those that have 0 or 1. it's like thinking you're much better than someone who got a B- when you got a B.

2. My other point was as far as hallf of famers are concerned, we've had our share, but in general we've had about an average number compared to the rest of the league. Remember Cat and steve probably won't make it. Pip and charles were past their primes and are mostly indentified with their old teams due to their short stints in Houston.

3. My last point is a reputation is what you're known for, not just what fans think, but what outsiders see as well when thinking objectively. Jazz fans probably think their rep is different from what it really is. When you say "houston Rockets", to a lot of people heart and toughness are what comes to mind, at least not over the span of 40 years. I think we're known better for being a class organization as a whole, including staff, coaches and management. i don't think the team has been consistent enough on the court to have a reputation solely based on team play.

 

YOu are a band wagon fan because you are more of a Tmac fan then you are a ROCKETS fan. YOU care more about defending an under achiever then you about the Rockets winning a championship. You stick up for a guy that you don't even know personally that hasn't taken this team anywhere, but then have the nerve to insult and bash other passionate fans that have rooted for this franchise for decades now. You seem to care more about Tmac than you do the team and THAT IS A FAN THAT ROOTS FOR A SPECIFIC PLAYER AND NOT THE TEAM.

YOu call yourself a fan, but attack other fans for wanting to win. That isn't a fan at all. Go attack other fans of other teams and find some new player to root for instead of the actual team. I care about the Rockets as a team, not just an individual player that has no passion about winning.

 

Notice how those pics are all in black and white?? It's aint what it used to be, now money plays a big role and that's precisely why leebigez makes a good point. Too many players don't love the game themselves, so how can they love the fans that love the game?

 

I'm not the type of person that "hates" on players, because obviously I don't have the talent or skill it takes to be even close to a bench warmer is in the the NBA. I do get frustrated and question players on EFFORT. I think I can question passion. I've seen passion; Kobe has it, Lebron has it and hell T-mac has HAD it one in a while too. I am proud of my team this season for a lot of things:
1) The Locker room is not down playing failure and owns up to bad loses.
2) The Young guys are blossoming into their own roles.
3) The veterans have been flexible with their roles.
4) this team is in the playoff hunt without it's "superstar"-you called him that last year, hypocrites.
I went to the game last night and there is no place that i would rather had been. I Love this city and I love this team. I deal with pain, drama and hard work to get to the top at my job just like my team. If I wanted to be happy go lucky, never sad or mad hell I'd be a Fake Laker fan.