No, it counts as trying to have this thread be one where people actually answer questions instead of just saying the other guy is equally as bad. I also already mentioned Obama's most embarrassing moment in my opinion. If you want to ask me more about Obama, once you answer the original questions I'll answer anything you'd like. The idea behind answering the first questions posted before asking new about new ones is that it is a way to have a real discussion instead of combatting incident of gotcha. In order to answer about some of the embarrassing things the candidates have done requires each person to actually acknowledge what has happened, or possibly discuss it. I'm sorry if that's a difficult concept for you. I'll address any of Obama's percieved weaknesses, but not without addressing the other issues I brought up first. I'm not voting present on anything, just trying to have a discussion. I guess both sides can be good at ignoring "flaws" in their candidate. I just hoped that it might be cool to have people at least think about the flaws.