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Are We Willing To Give Griffin Away?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lelo, Jun 25, 2003.

  1. Doctor Robert

    Doctor Robert Member

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    I don't care that Griffin has a laid back demeanor. As far as I'm concerned, that doesn't indicate how much he cares or how much potential he has. You don't have to show your emotion to be competitive.

    We know that he has the potential to be a first class shotblocker. Hopefully, he will improve this season on that front. He seems to be out of place on defense some, but I wouldn't dismiss him for this until we see what happens with JVG this year.

    He may have a low FG%, but he seems to have great balance, footwork, and body control when he is in the low post. He is definetly "in control", which makes me believe that with practice, his FG% could become very good.

    He has a nice mix of offensive skills, and should be able to cure his flat jump shot.

    PLEASE DON'T TRADE EG!
    ...unless you can get a young All-Star PF in return.
     
  2. RocketFan85

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    I like the Rasheed Walace deal, if we could trade Griffin+Cato+(Taylor?) for Sheed then I would do it. Sheeds has a huge contract, but it is over next year. Next year the Rockets would lose Rice and Sheeds contracts, think how much cap space that is!
     
  3. rockets-#1

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    I agree with everything you said, especially the part bout his attitude. Bill and Calvin have said many times that Griff is just shy and quiet. It doesn't mean he doesn't love playing the game and for the Rockets
     
  4. garthomps

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    Get rid of him now while his stock is still mediocre to medium-high

    You will not see anything promising from this kid in the long-run. Though his rating does not bear what we originally thought when we traded 3 picks for his rights. It is certainly better than a year from now when we go through this crap (evaluating his potential) again.

    Eddie stock equals Enron stock

    Looked good initially, went down and you were disappointed, thought you would invest more because it would come back, then you completely lost your ass!

    It's a business and you have to look at it that way.

    Bye-Bye Eddie, and good luck sacking groceries
     
  5. Yetti

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    Considering all the erratic and crazy proposed trades that have recently been suggested I think holding pat is recomended! Griffin should 'not' be traded for a 'temporary' and 'expensive' 'quick fix'. Eddie should only be considered involved in a trade if we are making a significant uplift of our Roster. For example:- Mobley & Griffin for Brand or O'Neil, nothing less IMHO.

    PS Right on the mark Dr. Robert!!
     
  6. TheReason

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    Great post! This is exactly what I've been trying to say, players do develope. A lot of people seem to think that if a player doesn't show good signs right away, we should think about trading.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    Well my hunch, and nothing more, is that he is not ever going to develop into the player we think he can and that he is more likely to be Brad Sellers than Jermaine O'Neal. He is going to tempt you with his potential but ultimately not deliver.

    Just my suspicions from watching him get PT handed to him on a silver platter, and, if anything, regress over two years and seem to not give a damn about it.

    I hope I'm wrong
     
  8. garthomps

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    Again my point eyactly:

    Get rid of him now while his stock is still mediocre to medium-high

    You will not see anything promising from this kid in the long-run. Though his rating does not bear what we originally thought when we traded 3 picks for his rights. It is certainly better than a year from now when we go through this crap (evaluating his potential) again.

    Eddie stock equals Enron stock

    Looked good initially, went down and you were disappointed, thought you would invest more because it would come back, then you completely lost your ass!

    It's a business and you have to look at it that way.

    Bye-Bye Eddie, and good luck sacking groceries
     
  9. Ming the Dream

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    It depends on what we can get for him. I wouldn't trade EG for Davis because I think that AD would put us in a position where we can't get better for the next 5 years because of that huge contract. So in that scenerio we wouldn't be a better team. I would trade him in a minute for Abdul Raheem, O'neil, and Brand. EG isn't going to be the player alot of you think imho. He is noodle thin and has no post offense or defensive games. SamFisher hit it on the head, he is closer to Brad Sellers than he is J. O'neil. If we can get some value in return fine, but I wouldn't trade EG for some huge contract ( Davis, Grant, etc.). Not because of the "Eddie has so much potential" crap, but because I don't want anybody else's bad contracts along with our own.
     
  10. Drexlerfan22

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    Jermaine was sitting behind Brian Grant and Rasheed Wallace. He just never got a chance. Eddie's had chances. Very different situation.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd like to keep him. I think Van Gundy will help him to improve. However, if Portland offered Wallace for Griffin and Cato, I would definitely do it.
     
  11. Doctor Robert

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    It makes sense to trade Griffin for a young player who has developed enough that we know he will produce what we want for years to come. That means future All-Stars like Elton Brand, and Jermaine Oneal. Griffin's risk of not fufilling his potential is great enough that I would sacrifice another player on the team to make a deal for an absolute sure thing.

    What doesn't make sense is trading him for an older player who has maxed out on his talent, a younger guy who plays smarter but doesn't have the potential, or a bargain-priced head case. We don't need to cash out on Griffin for this type of player because we can sign them using the exception.

    Besides, I don't honestly expect us to have a chance to win it all for another year or two if things go well. Remember, we are in the WESTERN Conference. The conference where teams like Detroit and the Nets can't even slip past the first round. To site one example.... If we had Richard Jefferson instead of Eddie last year, we might have won a few more games and got the 8th seed only to lose in the first round. DON'T trade Eddie for a Richard Jefferson, or some other mediocre talent.
     

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