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Are we underrating Kevin Martin?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wikiwiki, Sep 9, 2010.

  1. Shroopy2

    Shroopy2 Member

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    It shows people are watching the games. Free throws don't impress people. .435 FG% and .310 3pt% is same ol' same ol', even if it ends up in overall good efficiency. Kevin Martin has to make more shots from the field to get the "wow" factor. Like Von Wafer.
     
  2. Someguy1229

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    Yes, people need to realize that this guy is a borderline all star. He is gonna surprise so many people next season and then he will be praised on this site.
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    He'll shoot better from 3 next year. He's a career 38% 3pt shooter including over 40% the previous two seasons.
     
  4. Plowman

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    Kevin was coming off a broken wrist and changing teams.
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    I had a broken nail and changed my underwear. That didn't stop me from cheering.
     
  6. solid

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    Absolutely, I have been saying this since the trade; he is a flat out scorer. He can put up thirty effortlessly and drop 40 plus on a good night. Not many players can do that at the NBA level. Plus, he draws fouls like a magnet. He is not as fragile as he looks.
     
  7. LewLLOYD

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    Often people talk about how the national media under ranks us, and how its good to fly under the radar.

    Well, I'm glad people under rate KevMart. Rating someone high, only sets them up for a fall. Superstars. KevMart has amazing talent and is also a team player.

    I think we win as we are. Thats just how I feel.
     
  8. BEAT LA

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    All this talk about how the media underrates us may be beneficial for some teams, but not for the Rockets. If you have ego-maniacs like Kobe, then yeah, it may cause your team to lose the mental edge if he goes in thinking he can sweep said underrated team.

    NBA players recognize talent better than anyone. What the media says doesn't effect how they guard players.
     
  9. Corpusfan

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    I'm not down on him at all. I think he's an excellent fit for this team, will perform great with Yao, and I'd much rather see Brooks traded than him. In fact, I really wouldn't want him traded in a deal for Melo.
     
  10. peleincubus

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    just so you know kevin martin was born the year 1983 and aaron brooks was born the year 1985. so martin is a WHOLE 2 years older then brooks.
     
  11. pippendagimp

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    his defense is definitely underrated on this board. he actually stays in front of his man quite adequately. his real weakness is when a stronger plays simply muscles him in the paint and shoots over him. imo, brooks is actually a bigger defensive liability for us because he allows way too much point guard penetration into the paint and is lackadaisical at closing out on shooters.

    anyways hopefully with the addition of yao, both our starting guards will be able to expend more energy/effort on D now.
     
  12. lon_1023

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    just sick of people talking something like this..after knowing the numbers do show his greatness..

    please stop saying arron is better than him..and things like that..i can't believe people has so much bias and like AB that much and blind their eyes..btw, talking about weak and defense ability..AB is much worse in comparison to martin..btw, i like AB's shooting and offense a lot..though his defense just evens out, coz his opponent can shoot over 40% all the time..LOL

    i would love to see martin stay as a Rockets next year rather than using half of the team for an okay Melo..(i mean not worth C-bud + martin or whoever needed to add..)
     
  13. SamuelSoo

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    We can not complain him more but his body,just like the friend above said that a strong wind could blow him down.The weakness will be outstanding when he face with the strong guard like DWilliam ,CBillips,DRose.
     
  14. marky :)

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    The same people who complain about his defense are probably the same people who are dumbfounded at the end of the game when they realize KM has scored 20+ points without them noticing.
     
  15. pippendagimp

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    At some point the whole i-get-a-free-pass-for-seeming-braindead-because-ima-foreigner alibi just doesn't hold water here anymore. Soo Samuel, you're soaking wet now.
     
  16. Depressio

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    A lot of the criticism of Kevin Martin tends to have a good rebuttal.

    Kevin Martin is injury-prone!

    Actually, his injuries were more freak things than reoccurrances (as in Yao's case). Things like a broken ankle aren't really something folks are "prone" to.

    Kevin Martin's defense is terrible!

    It has been the last few years but that's because of the offensive burden he had to labor under. He couldn't focus on defense because he had to do so much scoring for his team(s). According to Adelman (and Martin), when he first game in the league, his defense was pretty good and he just needs to get back to that state now that he's with a team that has an offense other than him.

    Personally, I think Kevin Martin is an ideal match with Yao Ming and it will work amazingly well this season.
     
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    I don't want to be lumped together with everyone else and spoken for. I do not underrate Kevin Martin. I think he's going to be FANTASTIC and nobody is worth getting rid of him.
     
  18. t_mac1

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    if you keep getting injured every year, then you are injury prone. it doesn't matter what kind of "freak" injuries that you get.

    he didn't have to carry the offensive load last year and his defense was terrible. i'm sureh is effort will increase this year though and that's all we can ask for.

    but he's not underrated. NBA heads know who kmart is. he's a really good scorer and that's really it.
     
  19. TheBornLoser

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    If you folks want to see Kevin Martin improve his "defence", then that is exactly the reason why Shane Battier must stay with the team.

    I do not put much hope of Kevin improving his individual defence. He is not going to be Battier or Artest-like. Hell, not even -lite for that matter.

    But if there is one aspect of defence that he can improve on, and IIRC, he is working on that aspect this summer with David Thrope, it is improving his team defence.

    I am confident he can be a better team defender than he was last season. As was said, he won't have to put so much energy into the offence if there are 3 other strong options with him (Yao, Brooks, Scola). He can allocate some of his energy towards the defensive end.

    However, to really bring out his team defence capabilities, you would need a strong floor "defence general". One who knows how to direct people to the right defensive spots / assignments or yell out the right defensive plays. That guy would be Battier. And for me, I think we will see Martin's team defence improve in this coming season, and it will be because:

    i) he trained for it;

    ii) Yao is back; and

    iii) Shane will help Martin by being the defence floor general.
     
  20. Northside Storm

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    If I were judging SGs in the NBA, I'd split them into five tiers-Unquestionable superstars, borderline stars/second options, solid starters, bench players and border line NBA players (Scrubs). I'd put Kevin Martin into that second-tier shooting guard category, if only because he can't really consistently create his own shots and because the NBA's two-guards are ridiculously good (Kobe, Wade etc.) but I honestly think he is just steps away from getting into that first tier.

    It excites me to see what he could do with Yao on the floor. If he can learn to consistently create off such a great situation, then I think by the end of next year, we could put Kevin Martin in the same tier that holds Wade, Kobe, Roy, and Joe Johnson without laughing about it.
     

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