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Are we really THAT bad?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Burko, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. Hakeemtheking

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    This is not a bad team. On any given night, it can beat the Bostons and Denvers of the NBA ON THE ROAD, but there is no margin of error for that to happen.

    Clutch is on point regarding our needs. You pluck in Melo at your starting sf and Chandler as your defensive big, and this team could make some serious noise. The question, of course, is how do we get those type of players without gutting the team?

    Man, this is depressing.
     
  2. rockets934life

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    So should we continue to accept mediocrity because we, Rox fans, are lucky to have a team at all? Should we not expect a clear direction and future promise out of the group of players that our management team has assembled, instead of 30 something year old players battling and clawing to stay even relevant?
     
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  3. Rezbama

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    We suck worse than anyone else in the league. Why? because we have committed ourselves to a rotation that lacks attraction to any stud. so while other teams might be getting blown out, they will rebuild or have money to at least get one stud in 2012, 2013. The rockets after Yao comes off, will have enough for this coming year, but we won't be able to attract someone good enough to get us to the next level.
     
  4. Bigmarky

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    do we really need 50 of these threads try reading the other 49 threads that say we suck
     
  5. MadMax

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    you mean the fact that no big man at 7'5" or over had EVER played past his early 30's?? or the fact that they ALL went through significantly limited minutes just to extend their careers that far? or the fact that none of those guys had ever logged the kind of minutes Yao had before his 30th birthday?

    Yao was never coming back. That's not hindsight...that was reality.
     
  6. MadMax

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    the fact that he is a SUPER big is why he wasn't coming back. a 2 or 3 can come back from this. grant hill did. but a guy at Yao's weight playing with that kind of force on his feet is not gonna come back.
     
  7. Cheerio

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    Our fans overrate our players more than any team in the NBA. We have a rock solid core of decent players. Mix them together and you have a mediocre system.
     
  8. DCkid

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    Wah wah. Just two months ago our clear direction was trying to win a championship with a team built around Yao and the hope of adding another big piece. It was crystal clear.

    Yao's injury was announced just before Christmas and you're upset the team hasn't been completely overhauled with a well publicized five-year plan before some lazy-ass people still haven't even take their Christmas lights down?

    I seriously question whether Rockets fans have the patience to continue supporting the team through what is sure to be a long rebuilding process. Be careful what y'all wish for.
     
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  9. MadMax

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    honestly, i feel like we've been rebuilding for about 13 years now.
     
  10. AggNRox

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    first i am talking about that specific injury on big man and nothing else. you can add tons of other facts to make you decision whether you need to bet or not.

    all what you said can be addressed during the draft night but all factors won't stop teams picking big man ahead other position often. plus potential to be a bust. the probability of getting a good big man is much lower than other positions. in your case, no team should draft bigs. in reality, a lot of teams like to gamble. the payback is too big to not gamble.
     
  11. DCkid

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    I think we technically stopped rebuilding the moment we acquired Tracy McGrady, but I feel your pain.
     
  12. rockets934life

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    Well, can't speak for other fans besides myself but putting most of our eggs in the Yao Ming basket seemed EXTREMELY risky at best. Do I blame the organization for going that route, NO, but it was obvious that if Yao went down again so should this version of the Rockets. I, again speak for myself, would welcome a rebuilding plan and consider myself more then ready to see young blood push through the Rockets veins again. Love Scola, Martin and Chuck but do Superstars want to play with them...honestly, do they?

    I will not accept years of crappy medicore ball, waiting for our knight in shining armour to show up and rescue the club from another 38-44 season. Either you make a bold move to put the club back on it's desired course or you burn the thing down and start fresh but not just wait..wait..wait....wait.....WAIT.
     
  13. wakawakka

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    No, and I didn't suggest anything of the sort. I said a lot of stuff JUST happened and things will take a little time and patience. Why are you so convinced the FO plans to meander aimlessly in no direction? You haven't even seen what will happen this trade deadline, what moves they'll make this summer, what they'll do with coaching, etc., etc., etc. Yao being done of course requires a new direction, and his contract coming off the books gives us some options for the future now. Wait and see what happens before assuming this will be the same situation forever.
     
  14. DCkid

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    This is what I don't get...what makes you think the Rockets and Morey aren't trying to make a bold move? There's been multiple reports that the Rockets are the most active team on the phones. It's barely been two months since Yao's injury was announced. By the way some of you are talking you would think the Rockets have been directionless for the better half of a decade and we have a laissez-faire GM who doesn't seem to care about it. Completely false.
     
  15. rockets934life

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    I understand and agree, the deadline is HUGE. I haven't killed Morey like many have because I feel that we should at least give him a chance but If his plan is to find a star to go with these group of players until that happens then it might take a while...LONG while before being relevant again. Melo is a SHORT term option and the 3 big guys in 2012 all have agendas that doesn't seem to include playing for the Rox. This deadline is crucial for not only the organization but also Morey.
     
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    Didn't say they aren't trying but just going by their well documentated plan, they are after a SUPERSTAR to replace Yao and attract another down the road. Who is avilable that will be here LONG term? Melo? Not a CHANCE. CP3 and Howard aren't coming here and DWill will be VERY sought after. Who do you think Deron would rather play with Scola, Martin and Hayes or Griffin/Gordon or how about Dirk in Dallas?

    Now a question for you, are you prepared to go half a decade watching this kind of ball if the Rockets can't bring in a star?
     
  17. GATER

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    Don't be offended but....what do they have to offer to be partners in a "bold" move?

    Yao expiring? Plenty of other teams have similar amounts of cap relief to offer.

    A collection of $Ball players? Other than the Rockets fueling the media, where is the spark from some other team? Seriously, the Rockets can talk all they want. No other team is lining up to fuel a "bold" move when all your putting on the table is Brooks and/or Battier and/or expring contracts and/or picks.

    Scola and/or Martin? Ignoring that Scola is BYC, name a "bold move" player that can reasonably be obtained for them. And then, imagine the Rockets without either Luis or KMart.

    You're not creating a "bold" move with a bunch of role players. Stop holding you breath.
     
  18. Easy

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    We are a healthy Yao Ming away from being a dark horse team, and if we could make a minor upgrade or two, we'd be contending. Oh well, there goes our dream.
     
  19. tiger0330

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    Totally agree, the trade deadline will tell you a lot. Morey pulls off a blockbuster trade then he had the assets that NBA teams wanted, if he doesn't it might be year one in a long rebuilding process for the Rox.

    I don't consider a trade for Melo without an extension anything other than an act of desperation esp if Morey has to trade Scola, CLee, AB and a couple of firsts to get him.
     
  20. Surfguy

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    We are a roster overhaul away from being a contender. ;)
     
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