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Are These Really "Doctors"?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Tree-Mac, Sep 1, 2010.

  1. Harrisment

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  2. wtfamonkey

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    Depends on what Chiropractor you go to. There are really crap ones and other good ones. I have an Herniated disc and 2 years ago I went to a crappy Chiro. All he did was make me stretch and a massage. Never went back. Then I went to a sports medicine doctor. He was actually an MD and he recommended a Spinal injection and it actually worked. The rest was PT for a couple of months and I'm back to 90% of before. :p
     
  3. Lynus302

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    Thanks, man.
     
  4. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    You forgot Juris Doctor (JD).

    - Dr. Moniker :p
     
  5. Yonkers

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    Yes. I have. I've been in the workforce for over 20 years and I work a lot more than 40 hours work weeks. Even if I haven't... do I get to be called doctor by the time I'm 65? Is that the criteria?
     
  6. Ubiquitin

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    Did you get your doctorate in the field? If not, then no.
     
  7. Yonkers

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    That's my point though. So they had to study hard. And a lot. But so do a lot of other folks. Especially throughout your career. Why do they get that title?
    Let's say some rocket scientist at NASA got his Masters in Ninja Flight Aeronautics. He never gets his PhD. But he works at NASA, constantly learning for 40 years. He's put in a hell lot more 'studies' than some 25 year old intern.
     
  8. Ubiquitin

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    The point of a doctorate is not that you've studied hard, it's that you've created a body of work that advances the field and the doctorate is the degree indicating this fact.

    For physicians, doctor indicates that you are able to advance the field by teaching it to the future generation.
     
  9. Yonkers

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    Physicians don't teach jack to the future generation though. Or very little of them do. PhDs maybe since most of them go through a period of teaching before they settle into research or whatever. Do Dentists? Chiros? Doctors of Nursing Practice don't. That is a doctorate degree specifically for practical nursing knowledge. Nurses have a separate PhD program for the teaching/research side.
    Irregardless, why specifically, out of all the degrees and 'advances to their field', do these guys get a specific title? And get pissed if you don't use it. Plenty of people advance their field.
     
  10. Steve_Francis_rules

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    So your problem with the "doctor" is that he wants to actually fix the problem so that it won't keep bothering you? You'd rather continue seeing a chiro indefinitely?
     
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    Since you're a dentist, I'm really surprised that you're willing to lump yourself in with chiropractors.
     
  12. Lynus302

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    A doctor might know that "irregardless" is not a word.
     
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    I was making a sarcastic remark, since dentists rarely get any respect.

    The stuff people have said to me or that Ive heard makes me chuckle.
     
  14. Yonkers

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    Except it is

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

     
  15. Ubiquitin

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    Have you ever heard of Johns Hopkins, Mayo Clinic, Mass Gen, Cleveland Clinic, MD Anderson, etc.? Do you know why they are famous? They are all academic medical centers. MDs (attendings) teach MDs (residents) specialty care. MDs (residents) teach medical students general care. Every physician comes through an academic medical center.

    Like MDs, PhDs train graduate students to become PhDs. P.I.s train post docs. Post docs train graduate students.

    Same with dentists, same with DNPs, same with JDs, etc.

    I have no problem with chiropractors having a DC degree, but the problem is that outside of academia the phrase doctor has a very specific meaning - a licensed medical practitioner. Because chiropractic practice has not been shown to provide medical benefit, they are financially benefiting from a title that does cover their trade.
     
  16. Yonkers

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    Fine. Out of the 1 million doctors we got, 500 of them teach. Are you saying that's why they deserve a title?
     
  17. Ubiquitin

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    Out of the doctors in the United States, all of them have taught during their residency.
     
  18. giddyup

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    It's like 1/8 to 1/4th of an inch. Not really noticeable except the impact over time.
     
  19. RV6

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    i think he's trying to say doctors rush to recommend surgery, which may be uneccessary at the time.



    And are y'all really arguing over why someone gets to be called a doctor after completing the appropriate education? What's next, why are people called teachers after completing a teaching certification?? :confused:
     
  20. ArtV

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    I used to work at the UTHSC-Med Center and I could go to any doctor I wanted to for free. I picked some high dollar drs. After giving me xrays and stupid needle tests they concluded that what I needed was muscle relaxers and pain pills. This went on for over a month and after repeat visits, they said I might have this the rest of my life.

    Even though I thought chiropractors were quacks, I decided to give 1 a try based on a referral even though it was going to cost me out of pocket. The 1st visit fixed me for 30 minutes. The 2nd visit fixed me for 1 day. The 3rd visit fixed me for good.

    If your chiropractor keeps you coming back then they aren't any good IMO. (We moved and my son went to a bad one that had a "program" until we found a good one). The best ones fix you and only tell you to come back if it happens again. They have enough business without running the scam the bad ones operate.

    By the way it's been 25 years and no pain since. His name was Dr John Weed (no pothead jokes). Not sure if he's still around but the man fixed me up.
     

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