Are there any people here who don't believe in evolution?

Yeah, I mean who needs evidence or proof when trying to explain the greatest mystery in the universe?

Pfft, that's for losers.

 

Well, the origin of species, to me, involves the Big Bang Theory, too; in other words, the origin of everything. I feel that everything from the Big Bang and beyond is explained fairly well with science, and I believe it. This includes evolution, the expanding universe, etc.

What I cannot explain, and what science has not been able to explain, is how the inifnitely small/dense mass that originated the Big Bang got there. Maybe the LHC or some future scientific investigation will be able to help with this, but for now, we've got no clue. Maybe God created it? I'm not saying that's what I believe, but something created it. Perhaps that something created it with the knowledge that it would expand to form our universe and evolving organisms. So, from logical connection, if one says God created the infinitely small/dense mass, then technically God created evolution.

Now did I blow your mind?!

 

Then what created God?

 

You hear that sound? Yeah, that's me cringing. It basically paints the same picture as the link I posted. It's very cringe-worthy. Do you cringe with me?

 

What kind of arrogance would lead anyone (scientist or theologist) that such evidence would be easy to locate, recognize, understand and quantify?

I don't, however, agree with your conclusion that the effort is a losing one only on the side of the creationists. The evolutionary theory is riddled with holes and incompleteness and requires a lot of "faith" to see it through.

The Greatest Mystery can and shall remain the Greatest Mystery; let's just appreciate and enjoy its marvels.

 

His father? Nothing because he is the sole "creator"? Again, I'm not saying that's what I believe, it's just some idea I had.

I also had the idea that atomic structure looks strikingly similar to solar systems (sun = nucleus, planets = electrons) and that perhaps each solar system is merely an atom, and our galaxy is nothing but a molecule in someone else's world.

Ideas are fun.

 

This sums it up for me.

 

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I know you don't believe that. I was just playing along. If the matter in the Universe could not have always existed then whatever created it could not have always existed either and so on and so on....

 

I'm sure you've heard of genetic mutations. They happen occasionally. If members of a species with a particular genetic mutation prove better able to survive long enough to reproduce, an increasingly large fraction of the overall population will have that mutation. Let this play out for millions of years, and you can end up with humans evolving from some different type of primate.

 

Actually, once you actually explain it, it becomes much less mind-blowing.

Anyway, you do seem to hit on why people are so willing to believe in God. Because we live in a world where so many things cannot be explained by science, and people are afraid of the unexplainable. Which would also explain why religion have receded over the years as science began to explain more of the world around us.

 

I have no idea what you’re talking about at this point. You seem to have departed on some kind of tangent, and perhaps I’ll just leave you to it.

 

Not quite. Any plausible scientific theory that fits the evidence should be considered. Creationism isn't a scientific theory. Saying "God did it!" isn't science. There have been countless times in the past that we could have given up on science and simply said, "God did it!"

Why do the planets orbit the sun the way they do? For centuries, most people answered "because God wills it." Isaac Newton came up with a scientific explanation.

 

Maybe the kind of evidence that comes from having already gathered an overwhelming abundance of evidence that points to evolution.

 

That similarity doesn't hold up once you understand quantum mechanics.

 

Simple question for those that believe in Creationism. Do you believe it because of faith or because of some evidence that exists?

I'm guessing for those that believe in Creationism, they are just afraid of questioning the Bible since they preach to you over and over "don't believe the wisdom of men but the wisdom of God". I'm also assuming that they think if they don't believe in this, they'd probably get thrown to the "lake of fire" and not get into the kingdom of heaven. I know these are the reasons I use to believe in Creationism, but then common sense and logic took over.

 

The creation/origin of man/life/universe/stuff/etc.

Seriously, I lost you by calling it "the greatest mystery in the universe"? It's not that hard to follow along.

 

Agreed. Personally, micro-evolution is very obvious to me, apes and men having a common ancestor plausible, microorganisms to man-skeptical. I'm open to that possibility (microorg to man) as a theory, but it isn't something I necessarily "believe".

 

More an intelligent Designist

Rocket River

 

I thought a major premise was mutations which would affect the genes.