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Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by CaptainRox, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. McGradyPwns

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    Solid class buddy.
     
  2. roslolian

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    When you say the Thunder roster is horrible, and you wouldn't want any of their guys on the roster, what do you expect people to say? That's you're a genius? :rolleyes: Don't say idiotic things then get surprised when people mock you.


    The Thunder team is amazing. IMHO its way better than the Blazers roster...for one thing, the Blazers took like 5 years to become a playoff team, but the Thunder look like they're ready now or next year. This may not seem that big a deal, but remember Durant's first and half of his sophomore season were wasted under PJ Carlesimo, while Roy has been tutored by mcmillan since day 1.

    What I really like about it is that their core play different positions, whereas the Blazers have shown that Roy and LMA can't coexist with Oden.

    Durants looking like he's gonna be the only legit rival to LBJ, and Wesbrook's really really solid as well. If I were Presti I'd move Green for someone like Kevin Love, AL Jefferson, or even Marc Gasol. A post presence would do wonders for that squad.
     
  3. h0m3t0wnh3r0

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    the thunder are the future! durant is just getting better and better. the main skill he needs to work on is his defense but everything else in his game is just fine. westbrook is a BEAST! he will be one of the best pg's in a few more years. the ONLY thing i hate about this team is the fact that they are from okc. other than that, very fun to watch. they need a pure shooter on their team.
     
  4. LCII

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    They need a big defensive center to make that team complete..
     
  5. A_3PO

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    That is the biggest piece they are missing. The Thunder also need another scorer to back up KD (or either Green, Westbrook or Harden must become consistent on offense). Add some seasoning and experience to the mix and let's see what happens in 3-4 years.
     
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    Hahahaha. Yao for Durant!! LOL. Thanks for the laugh. I'm sure Sam Presti is ROFL'ing somewhere.
     
  7. roslolian

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    What's really killing me about Durant is how efficient he is. I mean, 30 pt scorers are common in the NBA, Iverson could score 30 in his sleep. But those guys almost always are volume shooters and waste tons of shots, Durant is both quality and quantity at the same time. In their recent game it took him only 14 shots to score 30 pts! Compare that with Iverson who on average needs 24 shots to score 27! I've never seen such an efficient volume scorer like that before, guys like Kevin Martin or Rip Hamilton are efficient but they only end up scoring in the low 20's, Durant's hit 30 in 9 of his last 11 games :eek:

    Like I said, he will LBJ will duke it out for best player in the league. LBJ's like the jack of all trade contributing across the board while Durant will be the specialist contributing only pts. But holy crap, what he does, he does exceedingly well :grin:
     
  8. roslolian

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    3-4 years? They're playoff bound already this year or the next IMHO. You're right about the defensive C though. IMHO they should look at trading Green for someone like Bogut or Jason Thompson.
     
  9. bushies

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    Not to nitpick, but 7 ribbies and 3 dimes a game aren't negligible. On scoring, he's just so hard to guard 'cause he's long and can shoot well and burn you on the drive.

    At the level they're playing at, they can play with the Rockets. I'd love to see a series go to 6 or 7 games with them. I still think we'd win though since we have experience and toughness.
     
  10. rockbox

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    Portland was r****ded for passing up on Durant. You don't pass up on the most impressive freshman college player to ever play the game.
     
  11. A_3PO

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    People who never watch the Thunder continue to label KD one dimensional.

    If only he hadn't started the season shooting so poorly, especially the 3-ball. It's hard to believe he's already got his shooting percentage up to 48.3% If he keeps up the pace, KD will finish the season over 50% from the field. It's almost impossible for his 3-ball percentage to make 40% again this year because he's dug himself in too deep a hole.

    Next up for KD is reducing his TOs. I know the pat answer is it's because he's creating etc, etc, but the true reason is carelessness and poor decisions. On too many of his TOs KD just dribbles right into them.
     
  12. A_3PO

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    I meant for them to contend for a championship. Of course the Thunder are playoff contenders right now.
     
  13. roslolian

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    I'm not sure his TOs will ever really go away. When you shoot the ball like that, you should have the ball majority of the time, and the more he has the ball the more his TOs will pile up. Not only that I think he's too long to have a low to rate. I mean, the guy's already 7 ft tall, when he dribbles the ball its got to be pretty high, and more susceptible to interference from opponents.
     
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    His 7 rebs and 3 dimes aren't neglible, but they also are average compared to LBJ, who'sabove average to elite at almost every category in the game. What I meant was that Durant's specialization can rival LBJ's all around excellence because of how good he is at scoring.
     
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    There was nothing wrong with what I said. You called a team that is currently tied for seventh place in the West essentially a college team. And you said you wouldn't want KD on your team if you were GM.

    That type of player evaluation would only get you a GM position if you had led the Pistons to two championships in the late 80's.
     
  16. warmshizzle

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    3 Assists/3.8 Turnovers is nothing to gloat about.

    Durants will probably be the most dynamic scorer in the league at some point in his career, but thats it.

    I don't see him breaking out of his scoring mould, he just doesnt know how to create for others and doesnt have the vision for it.
     
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    dont put kristcs or collisins names up their stiffs
     
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    LOL if you think the Rockets would be the one to back out of this deal. Durant is one of the very few untouchables in this league. Probably top 3 talent wise.

    I would personally drive Yao to OK if Thunder were dumb enough to do this trade.
     
  19. A_3PO

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    I guess the point is when you compare KD to ANYONE ELSE besides LBJ, he isn't just a "specialist". Any other gifted scorer in the NBA is just a "specialist" compared to LBJ which makes the statement meaningless. Kobe's career average is 5.4 rebs/4.6 assists per game. KD's season average of 6.9 rebs/3.0 assists compares quite well to that so I guess Kobe is also just a "specialist" by your definition, eh? 7 rebs/game for a perimeter player is very good. If you don't think so, name several perimeter players who average 25+/game and significantly out perform 7 rebs + 3 assists game.
     
  20. bushies

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    True, but any superstar who handles the ball a lot will turn it over a lot. Tough handle for such a lanky dude, and that may or may not go down significantly. He will always primarily be a scorer, but the notion of Durant as one-dimensional might hold true by superstar standards because he doesn't score and playmake just as easily as, say, McGrady in his prime. But anyone who can score as easily in so many different ways as Durant demands so much of the opposing teams' defensive attention, I see it as an intangible how that helps the team out in other ways offensively, even if he isn't dishing often. For instance, if they get a big man who and become a team that scores off a lot of offensive rebounds, that guys job becomes that much easier because of Durant's presence. Or the team runs a more inside-outside oriented offensive scheme. And as A_3P0 pointed out, 7 rebounds a game is super high for a guard.

    I would offer Michael Redd of a few years ago as an example of a one-dimensional star, not Durant.
     

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