Are the Texans a legit Super Bowl Contender this season?

It does mean something but even the Saints team you mentioned were 8-8 two years ago before winning the title last year. There is also an incredible stat that every year for the last 10 years, IIRC, a team that had lost 10 games the prior season made the playoffs in the following. To much parity to assume that last years results have a direct result on this seasons even if the same team comes back because of age, FAgency and other factors outside of the teams control like injuries.

 

I don't think he knows what he is talking about. smh

 

same people, same mistakes....

that simple.

 

Yep, and it does mean something the past season.

The past season is a good indicator when talking about players and how they perform...but with teams too many moving parts with coaches and players teams are just harder to say.

In football, literally one piece added to your team can make that difference from being a bad team to a good team. At the same time one player going down can make a great team look bad.

Look at the Steelers. They miss Troy and certainly look like a average team last year...with Troy in there they go back to being that intimidating defense we know them for.

Basketball and other sports are easier to predict. Injuries aren't that frequent(unless you play for the Rockets) and also...we just know a team with Kobe and Pau is going to be pretty damn good, we know how good a team can be with Bosh/Wade/Bron and it really doesn't matter whats around them they can still perform. In football a lot of players performance depend on each other...whatever happened to Larry Fitzgerald any ways?

Well that team lost their starting QB and #2 WR, he's still just as good but now it's harder for him to put up the numbers he did.

 

Well on defense certainly not much has changed over there. On offense though a lot more has changed.

We have new RGs, we have re-done our RB rotation, we have a new O.Coor and we have a new kicker which was a problem in a few games last year.

That may count for more wins. Last year we were 2-3 going into week 6, 3-2 doesn't seem like a big difference but it is.

I know everyone is down after the loss, but that's just how the NFL season goes. With only 16 games every win-loss means more than the Rockets or Astros losing on some random wednesday.

Going into week 4 understand that the Giants were being talked about like they were one of the worst teams in the NFL...and now people are talking about their 3rd ranked defense which has always been good.

In the NFL every week is overreaction. You should have seen the Colts forum after losing the first game and also after losing to the Jags. This pretty much happens on every forum of a losing team this early in the season.

 

Do you know what you are talking about?

I do not know what JayGoogle is trying to argue or even what his point is.

If this team had a pretty weak secondary last season, and they replaced and average-mediocre CB with a rookie CB, I think it is safe to assume that you team is still not set at that position and will struggle. If Peyton Manning would pick on Dunta Robinson last season and hurt the Texans, all indication are that he will do the same thing to a similar player in Jackson. You can absolutely look at previous matchup, players performance, and records to indicate where they are going the next season. Looking at this team the past couple weeks, I don't see where they improved their roster at all, they are essentially going with the same group of guys (except Kareem Jackson and Wade Smith). Another fringe playoff team, 9-7 record team is what is most probable and expected.

 

Really? Because the Texans pretty much shut down the Colts until they went into prevent defense and won their first matchup against them. What a horrible example to use.

You pretty much are completely ignoring that the Texans were among the worst in rushing last year and among the best. Obviously that is a BIG difference.

 

Certainly the Texans have made no improvements at all to their team...

 

I think you are ignoring that they rushed the ball well at the end of last season and anyone following the Texans knew that Arian Foster was about to have a breakout season.

And Peyton Manning threw for well over 400 yards, don't pretend that he did not shred the secondary and that Jackson was abused.

 

like I said, Arian Foster showed this last season, all indications were that he was going to do it again

 

Have a breakout season to the tune of being a leading rusher and among the talking heads a MVP candidate for the first quarter of the season? I don't think anyone predicted that. I think most thought he would be suitable, have a few decent 100 yard games and so...but no one expected the guy to be a gamechanger the way he has been.

For example...both the Redskins and Giants were more worried about Arian Foster than Andre and Matt.

Also I remember the whole Slate&Tate thing so even some people in Houston were not counting on Arian at all before preseason.

No one really was abused that game, Texans did exactly what they had to do on defense that game. Every team has it's weaknesses and strengths. If Manning throws for 400 and his team gets smacked around that's job well done for everyone on the defense.

For example, the Colts have pretty much always been bad against the Run. This is why the Jags and Titans haven't done so bad against them wile the Texans last year tried to beat the Colts in a shootout because the Texans did not have Foster for the year.

You may have predicted Arian was going to be this good, but the fact remains he was not on this team when we really needed him last year. His effect for the running game COULD BE the one factor that pushes the Texans to the next level. Up until this point the Texans had none.

Sort of like that Saints team? Remember before last year the Saints had no run game and had to rely on passing...and now that they have injuries to their RBs they certainly don't look like the same Superbowl winning champs.

 

2009 Texans:
-Poor pass rushing team
-Bad cornerback play
-Very capable passing team
-Good at stopping the run
-Good running team late in the season

2010 Texans:
-Poor pass rushing team
-Bad cornerback play
-Very capable passing team
-Good at stopping the run
-Good running team


seems like a lot of similarities between the two teams

 

By late in the season you mean the last two games of the season? I don't see how or why you are counting this as if nothing has changed there. Team had no rushing game last season for pretty much all of the season.

Never said the Texans have made changes on defense, the defensive play is pretty much the same except they were better against the run and that's because of the stellar play from Cush and Pollard. Still though teams have their weaknesses just like the Steelers are not a very good passing team the Texans are not very good defending the pass.

But a sudden emergence of a running game and a new player that could very well be a MVP candidate is a big difference.

This is the same thing I've been saying 3 posts back. Foster only had 2 good games last year, the last two games of the year... Texans have a running game now, they did not before. Having a running game fore two games does not equal having a running game for the start of the season, they did not start the season this well last year.

The funny thing is this works against your argument because the Texans were 4-0 ending the season last year.

 

If the Cowboys (who beat the snot out them) are, then they probably are. This is very faulty logic, but for some reason, it sounds o.k.

 

I would say that's solid logic.

 

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

This team is so f***ing impossible to read.

 

if we throw up 35 points a game we're contenders.

 

still laughing?

 

Not with that defense