For those who saw the Skip Bayless vs Jalen rose argument, Jalen makes an interesting point on having positions. Positions are more so just so you can simplify basketball for people to understand rather than necessary. Its almost arbitrary to have these roles. I now read on ESPN they say that KD is not a real MVP bc he averages as many turnovers as assists, but then does that make Tim duncan or Shaq not a worthy candidate since they did the same? Why is KD different from Timmy D, they are both 6'10 plus, but Kd stays more perimeter, but his role is not to distribute anyways so why are they saying he is supposed to have more assists. In the end of the day ,the goal is to put the ball in the hoop and KD is among the best scorers on one of the best teams in the league, but he is arbitrarily supposed to something because of his 'position' thoughts?
Look at the starting lineup of every team in the league. Most teams start pg,sg,sf,pf,c. If those positions didn't matter, then teams wouldn't do that.
Jalen Rose has a lot of "You didn't play in the NBA, so you don't know anything about basketball" in him.
Yea its a way to organize it, but obviously in the past calling steve francis aPG doesnt' mean he i s a PG. Calling lebron a SF when he actually plays the role of a PG doesn't mean he is a forwards, they are just arbitrary classifications to make it organized and simple for people to understand the game rather than actual things.
They aren't necessary and haven't been for a while (at least 20 years). Robert Horry was never a PF. All Kenny Smith did was spot up and shoot, and he was supposed to be the "point guard". Vernon Maxwell shot a terrible percentage, yet he was the "shooting guard". The Bulls won 6, that's right 6 titles with "point guards" who did nothing but spot up. Of course Dirk isn't and never was a PF. Just another reason why Bayless is a ****ing moron.
You guys are silly. Every team needs a very tall person to defend the rim and get rebounds. They also need a very tall person to get points in the paint. Every team needs a player who is in most cases smaller and quicker than the aforementioned players. This player needs to handle the ball well, be able to manage the game and make his team mates better with court vision. Every team needs players who can score through shooting, slashing or driving. Some of these scorers are smaller and quicker, others are taller. Defensively a team needs both smaller and larger players to match up with these scorers.
Let's start with the Base Case: Can 5 PGs beat 5 PFs? hmmmm. PFs might have trouble getting the ball up the court. OK, what about 4 PGs with 1 PF against 4 PFs with 1 PG? At some point mismatches overwhelm one team, so you need more positions.
It's not about positions. It's about abilities. You need certain abilities among players on the floor to be a good team. Usually certain physical attributes tie in with certain abilities. But sometimes some players have some special talent that break those physical connections with abilities. That said, the traditional nomenclature of "center" "forward" and "guard" is very misleading. (Yet the all star game still uses this as voting categories!) The three positions should be "big" "wing" and "point". How many of each of these you put on the floor depends on your offensive and defensive schemes.
People like Skip Bayless are stupid. More and more players are getting more versatile nowadays that they can play multiple positions. It's idiotic to think just b/c they are "assigned" this position on a roster sheet means they have to play that way. Versatility allows a player to play multiple positions, depending on the matchups.
well the idea here is that is it more effective in terms of defined roles, expectations, and mainly organization to have players in a system do a certain thing. Would it be better for someone to have the responsibility to distribute and make the decision to get the ball to the hot hand as traditionally done by the Pg, or like you said its lal changing. It may very well be more effective for westbrook to be driving and kicking because he is so good. The new level athleticism, offense schemes in the nba which favors offense over defense allows for versatility and you can leave traditional offenses out and go more 1-1. Its more fan friendly as well
