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are humans innately evil?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by RKREBORN, Sep 3, 2008.

  1. SwoLy-D

    SwoLy-D Member

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    Pronunciation:
    \ˈē-vəl, British often & US also ˈē - ( ˌ ) vil\
    Function:
    adjective
    Inflected Form(s) :
    evil·er or evil·ler; evil·est or evil·lest
    Etymology:
    Middle English, from Old English yfel; akin to Old High German ubil evil
    Date:
    before 12th century

    1 a: morally reprehensible : sinful, wicked [an evil impulse] b: arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct [a person of evil reputation] 2 aarchaic : inferior b: causing discomfort or repulsion : offensive [an evil odor] c: disagreeable [woke late and in an evil temper] 3 a: causing harm : pernicious [the evil institution of slavery] b: marked by misfortune : unlucky
    — evil adverb archaic
    — evil·ly Listen to the pronunciation of evilly \-(l)ē\ adverb
    — evil·ness Listen to the pronunciation of evilness \-nəs\ noun

    You're going to argue with MERRIAM WEBSTER, sir? :confused:
     
  2. Secret Agent 7

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    I've been to a few countries in Africa. I have taken photos of what people can do to others...there are different types of evil. I saw a kid murder an old woman in the street. People just walked on by some stared others did nothing. (When I say kid...9-10 TOPS!). It's amazing how little is known about what actually happens in OTHER conflicts. The media is nowhere to be found.
    Combat, breeds good and bad people. The drug market in Africa breeds Monsters!

    I should really write a book.
     
  3. Hmm

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    some are evil.. some are good... but most are simply full of BS...
     
  4. Secret Agent 7

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    If this is moved to the D&D...I'll show you what humans can do. (with spoilers of course).
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

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    Are you referring to Two Girls One Cup?
     
  6. rhadamanthus

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    Utah Jazz Pics, no doubt.
     
  7. MadMax

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    I love how post-modernism means we can no longer discuss anything because none of us know the meaning of words anymore. ;)
     
  8. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Member

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    What do you mean?
     
  9. MadMax

    MadMax Member

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    there was one?
     
  10. conquistador#11

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    If you want to seek truth, I recommend the scriptures of St. Augustine on this topic.
    " If the activity of the will in turning away from god is without a doubt a sin, can we say that god is the cause of the sin?"
     
  11. MadMax

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    deep!! sounds like reverse-calvinism.
     
  12. JuanValdez

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    Yes, people are evil.

    What makes you think these people aren't evil? Sure, they've done good things, but I'm sure they've all done bad things as well.
     
  13. MadMax

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    you're so influenced by your jesus lovin' wife!!! ;)
     
  14. JuanValdez

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    Yes, I'm a presbyterian atheist.

    But, when it comes to evil, my wife is all the evidence I need. ;)
     
  15. Bandwagoner

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    yeah because who is to say what is evil?

    Someone made up what is evil. Therefore I reject the question.

    For instance : "causing harm" causing harm to what? I eat a carrot I just killed it. Am I evil?

    I just ate a hamburger. Evil? Some would say so some would say not.

    Arguing about if humans fit a varying set of morals is impossible. No one can even agree WTH evil is.
     
  16. MadMax

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    I think we can reach some consensus on a few items. ;) I'm not sure we have to make language obsolete because we can't get 100% buy in for all potential qualifiers.

    Your post reminds me of a formal written objection to a discovery request.
     
  17. Bandwagoner

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    If "WE" is this BBS I am sure we can. If "WE" is all humans I really doubt it.

    Language is not obsolete but "evil" is more of a religious word than anything.
     
  18. Chief Rocka

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    Evil is fiction, there is no such thing as good and evil........
     
  19. Rocket River

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    Humans are self interested
    that is all
    the issue is to what extent to they evaluate their self interest

    Example:
    We can collectively keep our money and enjoy what we buy with it. . . .
    meanwhile a kid without any money or resources goes with out.
    NOW
    We have made some short term gain and enjoyment

    Long term. that kid turns to selling drugs becomes a criminal
    and ends up murdering us. Well in the long term . . our original keeping our money did not serve our long term self interests . . only our short term self interest

    Good and Evil can be seen in those types of terms
    Even Hitler 'thought' he was doing good . . . he was simply WRONG!!! VERY WRONG!!

    very few people *think* they are evil or that they doing evil
    [folx like Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer]

    Rocket River
     
  20. pmac

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    I don't think "evil" is only a religious term. It is, however, tied to someone's personal morals (which are similar with people of the same faith). As RR stated, very few people think they are doing evil because they have a different set of morals. Who decides what is right or wrong? I can only think of one.
     

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