...they then stay put and become ingrained in their local culture or a new culture is born. People are FIERCLY proud of there heritage. Think of it this way, aren't you proud of your hometown or high school or college. Regardless of any 'mixing' you are still proud of your own background. So regardless of any mixing, people have always been and will always be very proud of their heritage. It's human nature to be proud of your roots Give me ONE example where race does not exist in ANY human culture today. Just one. Please, I'd love to hear it. Let me clarify something. Race is an important part of culture and heritage. It goes hand in hand. But to get out of the semantics game that you are stuck in, lets use your terminology and call it "culture" (that is the word you used, right?) Culture (or hertiage) is a basic and fundamental component of each of our personal identities. FUNDAMENTAL. Inseperable. Where we grow up and what we look like, how we talk, what kind of things we like to do. This is what defines us as humans. ...and people tend to vote for people we think are most like ourselves. So to tie this in, the fact that black people tend to vote for black people ...and white people tend to vote for white people ...is not shocking.
I kept thinking while reading this thread that a lot of people need to start watching the History channel a bit more, reading some history books or go back to school. Sheesh. As long as there are differences people will be racist to their side. Our problem is how we define the term racist. Right now it has a negative connotation. I'm not bothered by it. Life changes...words change meanings...perception evolves. Is the word "favorite" an euphemism for racist? Will we become "racists" as a planet if we get attached by the little grays? So racism will always exist. Always. It's a part of us. When it's needed, we will all draw our racist card for our benefit. Now my hope is, but I don't think I'll see it in my lifetime, that one day this planet will make the jump to enlightenment. Then and only then will racism actually leave this planet. (Hell, maybe as enlightened beings it is WE who leave this racist planet )
O yeah forgot. 1. Heritage is relative, mexicans are proud of theri heritage but WTH are they? A hybrid of a mixed breed, their heritage is quite new. Native american and spanish mix. It is a perfect example of how a persons self identity is the main and only actual tool to determine "race" 2.Well the tribal people are all the same race and no contact with the outside world. Examples include those in Congo or in South America. 3.Culture is not heritage. No that is so off of what defines humans. You obviously have some huge problem with race and I hope you get it sorted so you don't live the rest of your life thinking you are what your race tells you you are.
How can you say that. Before anyone saw a person of a different race, how could it exist? Before boats and before a person traveled more than 100 miles in their life everyone they saw looked like them basically. Native americans lived for a long time and they were all the same race. So I think you don't mean racism will exist but conflict will always exist. Certainly it will not continue to be about race.
Dude, you are just bizzare. When you join the rest of us in the real world, you know, where people live ...then lets resume this conversation.
you say without even trying to argue. you are talking about civilization currently not human nature. Figure out the difference.
Yeah, you need to pick up a soc book. I don't think anyone will take the time to debate with you seriously on this.
It's more to help us understand where you're going with your accumulated facts. I don't expect you to agree with sociology theories, but no one is understanding your viewpoint when you spout off how culture isn't heritage or how groups generally merge (peacefully?) while using "history" as a basis.
I'm trying to grasp the argument here. I admit that I read so much of this forum and the others, and post so much, that when I come back to some of the threads, I often attempt to remember what the thread has grown into, sometimes without much success. Having said that, I'm curious, CaseyH... what is your opinion of racism as it exists in Mexico? You brought up Mexico and their ethnic gumbo. What about racism there? I have a strong opinion about it, but I was wondering what yours might be? Impeach Bush. Hurry!
I posed my contraversial theory that Race relations is a fundamental part of the human condition. That any human behavior has some sort of sub-context where Race has an effect even to the most mundance details of our lives ..which human interaction occurs anyway. I understand why people would reject that but I'm prepared to support it. Anyway, CaseyH took an odd position that race cannot be a fundamental component of human behavior because in 2000 years from now there will only be one race anyway. As further evidence, he said there are even current cultures where race does not exist. So I guess he is using Mexico as the example of a culture where race does not exist. Feel free to correct me CaseyH if I misinterpreted your position. Its definately one of the most unique positions I've seen in a while.
Mexico is largely ruled, and its wealth controlled by, the ethnically "European" citizens of Mexico, IMO, who are a small minority. Some of them hold a highly disdainful attitude towards large groups of the common citizenry. It's pretty weird to interact with some of the upper classes. I had cause to do so with someone recently and was a bit shocked at some of what I heard. A wonderful person, otherwise, but I was reminded of some of the "wonderful people" I knew who were bigots when I was a kid in Houston. Seemingly without thought, as if it is the most natural thing in the world. Really weird, as I said. Impeach Bush. Hurry!
A friend of mine says race isn't much of an issue in Brazil. However, since quality of life there is different, I'm sure there are more social problems than here.
