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Arabs avoiding US like the plague

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Surfguy, Jul 28, 2003.

  1. Legendary21

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    Por favor johnheath! Si solo tuvieras mierda de decir estaría mejor que te calles.
     
  2. JPM0016

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    Hell yeah that's wrong. My uncle by no means was one of the elite or rich. He ended up getting leukemia 7 months ago. Methodist Hospital accepted him and had the same doctors that MD Anderson uses. He didn't have the money to pay the 200,000 hospital bill or the 5,000 dollars a month for his medicine. But, thanks to insurance he was able to get the proper treatment.
     
  3. johnheath

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    Legendary, internet tough guys are a dime a dozen. Welcome to ignore.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Sadly not everybody in the U.S. is insured. If this had happened to someone who is uninsured, then it would have been real trouble.
     
  5. MadMax

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    Texas Childrens' Hospital is ranked in the top 5 childrens' hospitals in the world...and their policy is they won't refuse treatment to anyone, whether they can pay or not.

    I have a friend who was a nurse at a hospital in Galveston...he said the same was true there.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    The hostpitals can't refuse treatments unless it's an 'elective procedure.' But for ongoing care such as medicine, prescriptions, preventitive treatments, and different treatment options.

    Without insurance you are screwed.

    Someone who has diabetes may be able to get insulin, but there are numerous types of insulin and methods of delivering that insulin. What works best for some people will not be available without insurance.
     
  7. MadMax

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    ok...that makes sense...but the idea is out there that people are just flat refused treatment. my guess is that's what Legendary thinks. it's just not true.
     
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    So, the plague is also avoiding the United States?
     
  9. Surfguy

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    Nice.

    How about "Arabs like the plague...avoiding US"? :D

    Or

    "US is a plague which attacks Arabs"
     
  10. rezdawg

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    What do you mean by this? The doctors in Germany can provide healthcare that is on par with healthcare in the US. They arent paying for "lesser" healthcare.
     
  11. glynch

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    ok...that makes sense...but the idea is out there that people are just flat refused treatment. my guess is that's what Legendary thinks. it's just not true.

    Madmax,. I assume that on this issue you just being naive rather than trying to defend conservative health care polcies.

    You can't be turned away at the ER. They will give you 10 days orsomesuch of seizure, diabetes, anti-psychotic meds etc. If you go back every 10 days to the ER,which is tremendously expensive for the system they get ruder and ruder till you stop.

    NOt much good for these chronic conditionssufferd by millions of the uninsured.

    The fact is that once you get out of the Hospital Districts of Harris, Dallas and a few other large counties, hundreds of thousands of Texans either go without or take these meds irregularly due to the inability to get them.

    Whenever I encounter the ex-middle class person who has fallen through the cracks and is in this predicament they are truly shocked that this can happen to people like them in America. The long term poor have never known much different.
     
  12. Legendary21

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    People who can afford insurance could be considered elite. Maybe it´s a stretch, but there are millions of people who can´t afford insurance.
     
  13. glynch

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    People who can afford insurance could be considered elite. Maybe it´s a stretch, but there are millions of people who can´t afford insurance.

    Legend, it isn't a stretch. I think the recent figure is 41 million Americans don't have insurance..

    The strong majority of voters have insurance. Combine that with the great lobying power and political contributions of the for profit health insurance companies and the pols don't give a damn.

    Most middle class and upper class people have good jobs that give them insurance. They haven't a clue about what life is like for those 41 million.

    We have this wierd form of Christianity present in this country that backs a politics of public selfishness. To be fair many of the so called good Christians don't really understand what is going on and many do good works on a personal level.
     

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