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Arabic BBQ stands in China

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tedwhite, Aug 17, 2005.

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  1. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Member

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    What an odd post. Which part of texx's quote:

    is a "blanket statement about everyone" in China? By "f*** them" I think he was referring to the people who put the sign up, not the WHOLE COUNTRY.

    Frankly, I can't believe this thread is still open. Some of you guys are just lookin' for a reason to fight.
     
  2. MartianMan

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    Hmm, if you've ever read many of bigtexxx's posts, you'll see you generalizes A LOT about a whole population such as muslims and Middle Eastern people and consistently disregards other population's POV. In that context, it's easy to extrapolate his intended meaning.

    Let's analyze bigtexxx's quote. He first says "**** them". Either you can assume he is insulting the country or the people who put up the banner. I assumed the former, and you the latter. Fair enough. Then he inserts a comment about the Chinese government. That would make me more inclined to think that his "**** THEM" statement is towards the former. Then he adds he wouldn't be surprised if terrorist-supporters existed in the country of China, which is a blanket statement. That makes me lean even more toward the former. Then add in bigtexxx's previous attitude about other countries, and it's definitely not a stretch to see he is making a blanket statement about a country. At the very LEAST, he's saying there are people who support terrorism in China w/o any facts.
     
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    "
    Not sure how the Chinese government has allowed the media to publicize 9/11, but it wouldn't shock me if there were some bin Laden supporters there."

    Well just from that statement, he has inferred to things, that one the Chinese gov't might "allow" the media to slant the events of 9/11 and that has cause a rise in support for Bin Laden.

    If he just said by it self "it wouldn't shock me if there were some bin Laden supporters there", it'd be a more incomplete argument without giving the reasons to why he made that statement.

    By saying that "Not sure how the Chinese government has allowed the media to publicize 9/11", it sounded like aweful a lot has being inferred here. The question is why was that statement made if it was used as the reasoning for the latter part of the argument.
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    I was clearly talking about the people who put up the banner when I said, "f*** them". That is obvious. You're just looking to start something. I'll be the bigger man here.
     
  5. bigtexxx

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    How can you say I'm inferring things when I say, "I'm not sure...."? The answer is you can't and you are making things up. I know that you have feelings for China, but that doesn't mean you should pick fights with people for no reason.

    Seriously, your post makes so little sense that I have trouble believing that you typed it up with a straight face. It's almost like you're wishing I say something bad so you can jump all over me, but in reality you jump, assuming I meant something that I didn't say. Truly sad. You should get out more, LOL.
     
  6. wizkid83

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    Even with the "not sure" infront, by putting it in front of the reasoning "how the Chinese .... publicize 9/11" for a statement in an argument "but it wouldn't shock me if there were some bin Laden supporters there", you are only saying you are not 100% behind the reasoning and argument to be true. Otherwise why would you make the argument anyways? You made an argument because you believe, atleast partially for this to be true, the not sure of mitigates the amount of belief you put into it.


    Lastly, I didn't pick this fight, you did . Can you honestly tell me that you don't see a connection between the tsunami song and this situation, it's stupid people doing insensitive things.

    Just man up, say sorry about saying my post is the stupidest thing you've ever heard and move on because right now we're both playing in the special olympics :cool:
     
  7. ima_drummer2k

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    So you have a problem with "stupid people doing insensitive things" and then you end your post with this?

    :confused:
     
  8. ima_drummer2k

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    Actually he said he wouldn't be surprised if SOME terrorist supporters existed in China which isn't a blanket statement. You left out "some".....
     
  9. wizkid83

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    Never said I was smart and never said I was sensitive :p

    I'm not a very big PC guy, I honestly wasn't as mad a the tsunmai songs as a lot of other Asians, and I don't really care for the poster that much, especially since it's in China and most likely the more rural areas of China. It's like the deep south of United States, I can expect to see something that raise my eyebrow, but as long as it stops with words or expressions, I can shrug it off.

    I made an argument in my post and was gonna leave it be, but somebody "have insulted my honor, I chanllege you to a duel :smack:" Homer Simpsoned me :mad:
     
  10. olliez

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    bigtexxx

    If you look at the URL carefully, you will notice it's a "joke" site, what's more, the photo looks everybit photochopped to me.

    ;)
     
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    People all over the world, join hands
    Start a love train, love train
    People all over the world, join hands
    Join a love train, love train

    The next stop that we make will be England
    Tell all the folks in Russia and China too
    Don't you know that it's time to get on board
    And let this train keep on riding, riding on through
     
  12. MartianMan

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    it's already implied in my statement.
     
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    Fair enough. To me and many others, your post did not come off like that. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though.
     
  14. Panda

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    Look what's happening here. I'm busier than before so now I only check out the D&D forum occasionally.

    It's just a business gimick to attract attention by some poor fellows in the remote areas of China, if it's a real picture. If someone would like to draw a relationship between this and terrorism supporters in China, it's very far fetched to say the least.

    A couple years ago a famous Chinese actress, Zhao Wei, wore a dress with Japanese Imperialism Military Flag printed on it. The pictures caused huge upset among Chinese and Miss Zhao was forced to apologize and attributed the incident to her ignorance.

    The moral of the story:
    1. It doesn't mean Miss Zhao supports Japanese Militarism.
    2. It doesn't mean the Chinese government is involved in all this. It was a social event from beginning to end.
    3. It's understandable for the Chinese to be upset about it, and for the same reason, the Americans being upset about Bin Laden BBQ stand.
    4. The Chinese should be a hundred times more upset about it since the Japanese killed millions of Chinese in WWII, while Bin Laden killed a few thousands of Americans. However, the Chinese didn't draw a relationship between Miss Zhao and the Japanese government/people/militarism supporters in this incident.

    There is insensitive people all around the world. Chinese, Americans, Japanese... no exception, even sensitive people sometimes bends their knees in front of money with an empty stomach.
     
  15. Ubiquitin

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    Just to clarify, I have a friend from mainland with whom I correspond frequently, she was an exchange student, and she said it translates to "selling Arab BBQ". That's all.
     

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