What I'm saying is that only pointing out the negatives of one side and only the positives of the other does not indicate that you believe what you just typed. I never said anything about rooting for terrorists either. I don't know where you got that from my posts. What I was merely trying to say is that instead of trying to find the reason WHY Christians do certain things as many of you do for the terrorists (not necessarily condoning but trying to "understand" as some put it) you chalk it up to hatred and bigotry. I'm simply asking why you afford one religion this courtesy and not others. Happy Thanksgiving, by the way. I'm really not trying to get under anyone's skin today just simply trying to figure out why some people are willing to try and understand one religion and not others, you know?
saudi has a history of torturing. the facts in this case are absolutely ridiculous. there were doctors the defense presented that testified that he was tortured.
So even if he was tortured in Saudi Arabia and his confessions were not accurate....he was still convicted in a U.S. court. Do you think the jury considered other evidence? Are you saying since he was tortured he must be innocent? Also - two doctors on the prosecution said he wasn't tortured. And he told his parent in phone call that he was "Very healthy". His story that terrorists were using him as a patsy to buy time to run and hide sounds highly spurious.
i live away from my parents, and no matter how sick I am i do not ever say that I am unhealthy, because all that will lead to is them getting worried and feel guilty for not being there...
So if you were being tortured and in big trouble - you wouldn't tell your parents so they could get you help - especially if you were a U.S. citizen in a foreign country?????? I mean - who is dumb enough to tell their parents they are VERY healthy when in fact they are being "tortured". Sounds like this guy thought he was pretty safe in Saudi Arabia, got a little loose with his plans, and now he's in trouble and trying to run and squirm is way out.
i think juries are a joke. and ask any lawyer he'll agree. and im saying because he was tortured that evidence is unreliable. his innocence isn't up for question. its if he can be convicted on the evidence presented... this article is a year old and obviously a lot of the supposed 'positives' dont apply given the conviction but good points. http://writ.corporate.findlaw.com/mariner/20041220.html
The extraordinary lengths which you will repeatedly go to in order to concoct anecdotal stories and other wild tales to rationalize Mulism extremism is simply astounding.
Batman, I suggest you review some of your 'late night' posts before making this claim. Perhaps I should subsitute 'early morning' for 'late night', which is already a euphemistic phrase for a more obvious explanation of some of your more outrageous, antagonistic posts. Your attacks on Christians and other supporters of Christian values has been a consistent pattern for quite some time.
You're a liar and a joke. Why don't you review some of those posts and provide a link? Oh wait, that's because you can't. Go poof now, sweetie.
And this drunk stuff is tired. You can't argue the merits so you go to the drunk post thing. Yes I drink (like many here) and yes I've posted drunk (like many here), though a hell of a lot less than you and your sycophant brother imply. You drink too -- mostly at bars where you pay girls to get naked for you as I recall. I guess every time you post I could just reply by asking why you need to pay to see chicks naked but it's more fun to tear apart your weak and sorry arguments. You might do the same if you could, but you can't.
Why, I'd love to, sweetheart! Attached for your review, please find a mere sampling of what I am referring to, collected with one quick minute of effort. Hope this serving of TRUTH doesn't mix with your turkey to give you a case of indigestion. PEPTO BISMOWNED Totally. Best anti-Semitic president ever. McGovern was a p***y. Jew haters forever. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=1679875&highlight=haters#post1679875 And when a group of people identify morality as the key issue in a presidential election, clearly signaling that they consider stopping gay marriage to be the most important cause in this year's election, hell yes I'll call them *** haters. And I will also say I think they are sick and wrong. As it was with racial bigotry, I deeply believe it is with bigotry against gays. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=1582061&highlight=haters#post1582061 Nobody's actually posted advocating the amendment. Wonder who the five *** haters are http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=1435684&highlight=haters#post1435684
I really don't want to think you're this dumb, Jorge. I want to believe, as so many here do, that you're some sort of parody. You really can't be dumb enough to believe, for example, that the 403-3 vote was a victory for Republican war supporters or a defeat for Jack Murtha. You just can't be that dumb. I mean, nobody else in America is actually that dumb. And you can't be dumb enough to believe that my position regarding the Catholic Church's (and religous right's and Republican party's) stance on homosexuality -- that it is bigoted and hateful -- is equal to halfbreed's assertion that people on this board believe the Church is capable ONLY of hate and bigotry. I know you revel in intellectually lazy hyperbole, but halfbreed's post was flat wrong. And you have done nothing here to show otherwise. I am also against pedophile priests -- does that mean I don't think there are millions of good and great Christians doing good and great things? No. It doesn't. And I don't know where you were going with the Nixon thing. He was an anti-Semite and he made several statements to that effect. They are a matter of public record now. Or are you actually stupid enough to have meant to imply that my post about anti-Semitism was sincere and not sarcasm? God bless you, I guess you just might be.
Batman, you conveniently change the subject after you ask for and receive proof of your hatred towards Christians and those who support their code of conduct. A true sign of defeat on your part. Why do you have to change the subject to the Murtha vote? Hmm... Look, we all know yesterday was a day of feasting. I know that you may have some indigestion. Combine that with the OWNING I just slapped on you, and I recommend that you stay in bed and drink a little PEPTO.
My stomach's fine, Jorge. I'm vegan so I ate only healthy things and feel quite well. Thanks for your concern though. I wasn't changing the subject by talking about Murtha. That's not worth talking about in itself as everyone in the natural world who cares about such things recognizes that incident as a sloppy, unfortunate GOP misstep for which the party had to backtrack and in some cases even apologize. The subject there wasn't Murtha -- it was your dumbness. And if you read past the first sentences you'll see that I directly addressed your weird and silly post. I repeat that no one here has ever, EVER said that Christians were capable "only" of hate or bigotry. I repeat that halfbreed was wrong to say that and that you were wrong to suggest you could provide evidence to the contrary. Since you didn't. I do appreciate you posting those links though. I'm enjoying the trip down memory lane. Anti-gay discrimination of any sort, whether practiced by the government or any religion, IS hateful and bigoted. As it was with rights for blacks and women it will be for gay rights as well. And I hope that when that day comes you can look your gay friends in the eye and say how sorry you are for the way you used to speak and vote.
Oh, but Bats, you did say many things approaching that, which I so graciously laid out for you. And of course, by changing the subject to Murtha, my superior intellect, and the many other attempts at diversions, you implicitly sealed your fate. Much like the seal on the cap of a PEPTO bottle. But keep on looking for excuses. While you are at it, here's a start for you. PEPTO BISMOWNED
You are so freaking weird. What's with the Pepto? Seriously. I don't get it. Also, you used to be funny. What happened to that? And you used to actually kind of sort of try to argue. What happened to that? As usual, I directly addressed your feeble and bogus attempt and, as is now usual, all you have is weird pics and declarations of victory. You used to at least try. It's sort of sad. I'd encourage everyone to read those two links re: homophobia in the church and gov't. They put the lie to both halfbreed's and Jorge's posts here. Here are some examples: But apart from Jorge's links explicitly proving my point for me, these threads include important discussions that we should continue to have. And they're just good reads. Thanks again for the reminder, Jorge.
Not commenting on his guilt or innocence but do you really think if the Saudis were torturing him they would let him tell his parents they were?
So you are saying our whole system of trying criminals is a joke? So if jury's are a joke, then how do you propose justice to be administered?
