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Apple's WWDC 2010 (new iPhone)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ItsMyFault, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. DaDakota

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  2. Dr of Dunk

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    That'll be the next "major upgrade". ;)
     
  3. ItsMyFault

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    I've decided I'm going to upgrade to this baby... but I may end up selling it on eBay for like $1000 or more if I see it rollin for that much and then just buy a Nexus One. I'm wondering whether I should pre-order this online or if I should pre-order this to pick up at the store... does anyone know if I preorder it online that I'll get it on the 24th?
     
  4. Air Langhi

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    How is it that much better than the 3gs. Seriously how many people video chat?

    I think I text way more than I talk.

    I think steve jobs could peddle crap call it icrap and it would sell like hot cakes.
     
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    I stand corrected. Its been awhile since I have bought a new HDTV. Thanks for clarification!
     
  6. Dr of Dunk

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    So some co-workers and I were looking over the new features of the phone over lunch and here's what I think :

    802.11n - nice upgrade. I'm not sure I'm going to notice much difference though with the way I use it. It's not like I'm downloading huge files to take too much advantage of the speed. My 802.11g network was plenty fast for the brief surfing I did on the phone at home. But this is a good improvement.

    IPS screen - IPS screens are awesome screens on computer monitors. OLED screens are the holy grail on electronics. The Nokia N8 will have an AMOLED screen. The problem with OLED screens in the past has been that they don't perform too well in the sunlight. I honestly had no issues with my 3G's screen. Had this been on a full-size monitor, I would've been happy, but until I see it in person, I'll just say "cool" and am not really blown away by it. The screen's resolution should definitely be a plus. Overall, this should be a good improvement.

    5 MP camera with flash - yay, it's got a flash - not sure how good it is, but they finally are catching up to the Blackberry Curve I had about 3 years ago. lol. From what I hear the camera itself should be better. The 5 MP is irrelevant to me. I'm not going to be taking any serious pics with this thing that I then crop. I think the megapixel wars among camera phones is a bit like trying to pick the prettiest ugly woman - after a while, you discover it's pointless.

    Front-facing camera - pretty neat, but I doubt I'll put it to use much. I can see why people would like it it, though. It's just another added feature. Definitely a legit improvement.

    Battery life has been improved a bit. My 3G battery life was never really that great. I don't remember what it was rated at, but I seriously doubt I got what they claimed. I know I'm charging it once or twice a day and I'm not even using 3G networks. I'll wait to see how much it's really improved in "real world" conditions before commenting.

    Here it is compared to the 3GS : http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-vs-iphone-3gs-the-tale-of-the-tape/

    Here it is compared to some of the other heavyweights out there :
    http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-vs-the-smartphone-elite-evo-4g-n8-pre-plus-and-hd2/

    iPhone vs. EVO : http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/iphone-4-vs-evo-4g-fight/

    I'm still on the fence about getting one or going over to the Android. I wish a new Windows phone would drop soon. Blah. Either way, I see enough reason to actually upgrade from a 3G to a 4, but I'm unsure I will yet.
     
  7. Coach AI

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    Considerably.

    The 3G to 3GS was a nice speed and performance bump, but this upgrade is that and significant hardware changes.

    I don't remember, but did the Curve have improvements for low light pics or touch/autofocus? Like you said, mp really isn't what it's all about.

    Gizmodo has this shot up they took from the camera, supposedly. Looks pretty good.
    http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/photo_01.jpg
    http://gizmodo.com/5557622/this-is-how-the-new-iphone-4s-photos-look

    As far as battery life goes, Apple has actually been fairly reliable with their estimates. The iPad battery life is impressive. I don't think they would have made the multitasking and video chat additions if they weren't able to make strides in battery life.
     
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    On the computer? Millions and millions.

    On a cell phone? Well, its not like this was much of an option previously. Im sure the answer will be millions upon millions.
     
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    Man that phone looks badass. I really like it. I would seriously consider switching to AT&T, but I enjoy the service of Verizon (and love my droid).
     
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    Honestly AL, I really don't know...just posting what I got in email.

    I do like the forward facing camera though.

    DD
     
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    Pure opinion. A jailbroken iPhone is a technological wonder.
     
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    If this is a help to anybody, a summary of the new phone:

    Hardware changes:

    *faster processor
    *slimmer design (thinner than the 3GS)
    *5 megapixel camera (up from 3 on previous iphones) w/ low light adjustment and LED flash
    *HD video camera 720p @ 30fps
    *glass casing on front and back, with stainless steel band around frame that also acts as one big antenna
    *wifi built in now 802.11n
    *Gyroscope added to accelorometer and compass giving it motion capabilities like a Wii remote or PS3 SIXAXIS
    *front facing camera in addition to back camera, allowing for video chat (over wifi currently) and open to app developers
    *high resolution IPS display (960x640, supposedly the highest among current phones) with 4X pixel density increase ('retina display')
    *larger battery, Apple claiming "7 hours of 3G talk, 6 hours of 3G browsing, 10 hours of WiFi browsing, 10 hours of video, and 40 hours of music."

    Some various pics:
    iphone 4 black
    [​IMG]
    iphone top view
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    iphone side view
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    side view steel banding
    [​IMG]
    white iPhone 4 front facing camera
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    iPhone 4 white next to iPhone 3GS
    [​IMG]

    Gizmodo has put up a sample pic taken from the camera, I'll just link to it because it's pretty big:
    http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/photo_01.jpg





    Software:

    iOS4 additions:
    *multitasking
    *folder organization
    *background customization
    *improved Mail, including unified inboxes and improved organization

    Mail improvements:
    [​IMG]


    Apps announced at WWDC:
    *Netflix app
    *Farmville native app
    *iMovie video editing
    *iBookstore access added
    *Guitar Hero
    *added Bing as option for search engine

    iMovie video editing on the phone:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Netflix:
    [​IMG]

    Pricing/availability:

    *preorders start June 15, on sale June 24
    *$199 for 16GB, $299 for 32GB
    *available in white or black
    *iPhone 3GS 8GB will drop to $99
     
  13. Depressio

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    Since we were talking about cameras, I'll comment on this: pretty good quality. It's a bit grainy, but it's quite good for a cell phone camera.
     
  14. Depressio

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    I had a Curve. It's camera was terrible. That said, it had an LED flash still. Why the iPhone took so long to get one is a bit beyond me.
     
  15. Dr of Dunk

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    Actually, I mis-spoke. I actually had the Blackberry Pearl, not the Curve. The issue I have with the camera on my 3G is that its dang-near useless in low-light conditions, especially with no flash. The flash was something I had back then on my Pearl. It wasn't the greatest, but, eh. I really don't care about camera phones that much. Most of the time I take pics, it's usually just something funny that I want to send to somebody, so I'm not looking for a do-it-all camera on my phone. This is one reason why I don't care about the megapixels on the phone as long as it's around 2-3 MP or so and takes decent pics in various light levels, I'm cool with it.
     
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    Just curious, but what did I write that was incorrect?

    As for iPhone 4, no real surprises today, but I'll take it. My 2G iPhone seems like an old Startac next to the iPhone 4. Should be a significant upgrade for me.
     
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    Just got geek bullied into buying a macbook pro today.
     
  18. TheRealist137

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    My iPhone 2g is still chugging along. I have dropped it many times but it still runs. The only problem is I have pressure marks on the screen which sucks. It grows and shrinks based on heat. If it's on the table where it's cool it will grow, so I keep it in my pocket all the time now.

    Anyways, I am going to ride out my 2g until it dies probably.
     
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    You will not regret it!!!!
     
  20. FlyerFanatic

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    dang nice pics rokkit. think iphone is for sure gonna be my next phone.
     

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