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Apple's WWDC 2010 (new iPhone)

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  1. Depressio

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    Technology advances. It's not surprising that new phones today have better screens than yesterday. Whether Apple or HTC did it first, it doesn't matter -- the other will provide it shortly. That said, squeezing that resolution in that tiny space is, while impressive, unnecessary to me. My Nexus One's text looks almost like print to me unless I hold it uncomfortably close to my face.

    Yeah, it's cool, but do I need it? Nah. It's not a game-changer or anything like that. I suppose the whole concept behind a lot of these innovations is that they're cool, but not really necessary. The iPad (and the whole tablet "revolution") is the poster child for the concept of "not necessary, but cool" (what I call NNBC).

    Extended battery life: necessary.
    Better performance: necessary.
    Clearing up already clear text: unnecessary.

    But it's subjective, of course. Maybe those visibly anti-aliased edges really bug some people, but their battery life doesn't because they don't use it enough for it to matter.
     
  2. Tuan

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    Right...

    At 32in, a person would have to be greater than 10 feet away from their television to even slightly notice a difference between a 1080p and 720p set. Anything closer and you will be hard pressed to tell. But if you are going to buy a 32in LCD, what is the point of watching it at a distance greater than 10 foot?

    The same logic applies to these phones.
     
  3. Depressio

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    Megapixels ain't everything, contrary to popular opinion.
     
  4. seclusion

    seclusion rip chadwick

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    Let me put it this way, I'm going from an iphone 3g to the iphone 4. Not an iphone 3gs or any android phone worth speaking of.
    I didn't advocate anyone switch from their current device to it. I said *I* am buying it.

    You have a Nexus one, of course it's not a concern for you. If I had one I wouldn't be switching to an Iphone either.
     
  5. Tuan

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    Ditto. More megapixels in these tiny sensors will just add noise to the picture. I applaud Apple here for not entering the MP race.
     
  6. seclusion

    seclusion rip chadwick

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    Um, not really. That was a nice try, however.
    What you're trying to say is that the screen isn't large enough for the human eye to determine a difference. In either case you're incorrect. Unless everyone who has actually SEEN the device and HAVE something to compare it to are lying. I'm going to trust them in this case.
     
  7. Cowboy_Bebop

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    Totally agreed. Anything over 3.1 mega pixel to me is totally overkill especially for a camera phone. But there are people out there who doesn't know any better will easily buy into the hype.
     
  8. seclusion

    seclusion rip chadwick

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    Photographers develop at about 8MP...just saying.
     
  9. Depressio

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    Photographers don't use phones.
     
  10. Cowboy_Bebop

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    You see. Some people just doesn't get it. I give up...
     
  11. seclusion

    seclusion rip chadwick

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    Not for production work, but for fun they absolutely do. A phone can still replace a point and shoot.
     
  12. seclusion

    seclusion rip chadwick

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    You "doesn't" get the english language, so I guess we're even?
     
  13. Depressio

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    It's not that higher resolution photos don't help though, because the higher the resolution, the higher the quality potential. You can't deny that. But to consider it as the end-all be-all of quality is just silly. Higher resolution captures more detail, but that detail is uncapturable if other components of the camera suck anyway. I'd imagine the iPhone's camera is pretty good (I can't believe it never had an LED flash, honestly... even my Blackberry from 2 years ago had one).

    The photo quality of my Blackberry and my Nexus One are like night and day, even at similar resolutions.

    Hey, it's only a matter of time before someone sticks a professional-quality camera onto a phone with the appropriate resolution, shutter speed, etc. Will it have the same optical zooming capabilities? Probably not, but even that would be a matter of time. If you can cram all that onto a phone, however, you can cram it all onto a camera and then some, so of course a camera will always be higher quality than the phone (unless the camera company sucks).
     
  14. Tuan

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    Have you seen the sizes of the sensors in the cameras vs point and shoots vs crop dslr vs full framed sensor slrs?

    There is quite a sizeable difference in size of the sensor as you move up food chain.
     
  15. seclusion

    seclusion rip chadwick

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    Lol, of course I have. I'm a media major. I wasn't expecting DSLR level pictures from this phone. All I stated was 8MP is used in production work, and that was in reply to his statement that 3.1 was "overkill".
     
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    And for the record, I would love to see companies stop cramming more megapixels onto a phone's camera (*cough*EVO*cough*) and focus purely on the other factors that make image quality better (sensors, shutter speed, etc... don't know them myself).

    The auto-focus on my Nexus versus my Blackberry's (what I like to call) &*$%bag focus is awesome.
     
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    I also call out troll person in Dish few times in the past months too so what your point?

    Back on topic, overall there's some nice upgrades. I really wish the Incredible would have a front camera too but there's always a trade off. I'd like to see the iPhone move away from a tactile home button.
     
  18. Cowboy_Bebop

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    Lol, so I guessed you didn't read the part for a "...camera phone."
     
  19. Cowboy_Bebop

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    That my friend is where nanotechnology is going to come in handy.
     
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  20. seclusion

    seclusion rip chadwick

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    Do you mean the part where you said:

    ?

    No, no...I caught that bro. Perhaps you should learn to read your own posts better.
     

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