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AP Report: Stoudemire to win rookie honor

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SoSoDef76, Apr 22, 2003.

  1. DavidS

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    If what you say it true, then which player is a "go-to guy?"

    By the way, Yao get less minutes than Amare.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Look, I wished Yao won rookie of the year, but your posts are idiotic and if you think Amare is nothing but a goon then you sir are a just a hater. And all you people who wrote the team froze Yao out and that hurt him, Yao got more touches, and Francis took less shots in the second half of the season. That reasoning is just stupid and basically lies.
     
  3. story_teller

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    Pau Gasol won the ROY award last season, he's not foreign? :eek: *lol*

    I read a lot of the post in this thread and there were a few stupid ones and some really good ones (as usual). My take on Amare over Yao is like a lot of you all's...Yao should win!!! I can go into the many reasons why, but many of you have already. But, I want to debunk one of the reasons why Yao won't win (if in fact he doesn't according to the report): he somehow was hurt by selfish players and that ultimately will cost him.

    *haha* That's a joke. Many of the voters who did vote for Yao over Amare said they did b/c he WAS a focal point of the Rockets offense; opposing teams actually had to prepare to stop Yao -- with double, sometimes triple-teams, etc. The fact that Yao put up the numbers he did -- statistically better than Stoudemire's -- is amazing in itself. And like someone else said, how many times have Yao (and Francis) sat out the ENTIRE fourth quarter (and a lot of the third @ times) b/c we (the Rockets) were getting blown out of the water in games. This while Amare played in a lot of games late in the fourth when the outcome was already well in hand....including the final two games of the season I might add.

    Look, I'm not saying Amare doesn't deserve the ROY Award, but I am saying Yao doesn't deserve to lose -- if anything it should be a co-ROY deal. And it's not just losing, but losing in the large margin (again according to the published report) in which he did. THIRD PLACE ON SOME WRITERS' VOTES?? That's a fu*kin' joke! Especially given the fact that Amare finished first-second on EVERYONE'S ballot. Given all this it does seem that the writers more or less became somewhat sick of all the hype Yao received; and let's be honest, our rook' did get a lot -- sometimes too much. That shouldn't be the reason he doesn't win it, though, but I'm afraid there has to be some voters who grew tired of the attention.


    Hey, it's not Yao's fault he got a lot of pub -- if it were up to him he'd rather not have to do many interviews -- and proved just about every one of the as*holes who said he'd be a bust wrong.

    So congrats to Amare; Yao will still have the better career, I think. :D
     
  4. dbigfeet

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    Amen....If Yoa has a career like that other center I see atleast 2 more champion ship parties and a hall of famer again
     
  5. UHcat

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    I don't think getting to the playoff should be considered in voting for the ROY. This is not fair!!! Yao was the 1st pick and Amare was the 9th so Amare is supposed to be surrounded by better players and a better team as a whole and has a better chance to get to the playoff.

    Well there might be other reasons to support this decision, but this one can't stand.

    And, it's absolutely a team effort to make the playoffs. There's nth one man can do alone (except MJ :D ). You can't take the ROY away from Yao solely becuz of that.

    And, the situation is different. Rox lost most (in April) under the acting coach Mr. Mean who replaced Rudy who had coached Yao and the Rox all season along. This is one of the crucial factors why Rox didn't make the playoffs. If the voters keep sayin' this is why Yao dun deserve the ROY, they dun deserve the right to vote cuz they can't do the freakin' simple math and logic.
     
  6. walls

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    If Amare gets the ROY I am boycotting the NBA :cool:

    Well, or at least everything to do with Phoenix.
     
  7. TxCowboy96

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    Well it is now listed on the Houston Chronicle. I think this is a joke, the stats were comparable but I think Ming OUTDID Admare. Not slouching Admare but geez, Ming has HELPED the Rockets improve from last year, while Admare didn't!

    Don't worry that will be the LAST award Amare will get, and Ming will start taking the MVP years to come! :)
     
  8. fietguy

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    oh oh oh...sorry i offended your main man amare...i dont know what you mean with all the lies...amare can't play D, can't go right, and he hasn't been dunking as prolific in the second half of the season...and he had slumped in mar and april

    and what had yao getting more touches in the 2nd half have to do with anything i posted? (not that rox offense knew what to do with him in the post anyways)

    So, besides being stupid and a r****ded yourself, how about backing your sh>t up with some concrete arguments, i would expect as much from a senior suns fan...
     
  9. xcharged

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    excerpt from chronicle story...


    Stoudemire averaged 13.5 points, 8.8 rebounds, 1.1 blocked shots and one assist per game. He made 47.2 percent of his shots and 66.1 percent of his free throws.

    Yao averaged 13.5 points 8.2 rebounds, 1.8 blocked shots and 2.8 assists per game. He made 49.8 percent of his shots and 81.1 percent of his free throws.



    81% from the line.....
     
  10. Franchize3

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    Today's Chronicle Online:

    Yao Ming loses Rookie of the Year to Stoudemire
    By JONATHAN FEIGEN
    Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle

    Rockets first-year center Yao Ming, who earned rare levels of acclaim and attention this season, apparently has lost out to Amare Stoudemire of the Phoenix Suns in the race for the NBA's Rookie of the Year Award.

    The NBA announced its awards schedule for the week today and will present rookie of the year on Thursday. Sources close to Yao, however, said he had no contact with the league about attending a press conference. He was scheduled to leave Houston today on his way to San Francisco and will return home to Shanghai over the weekend.

    "Congratulations to Amare," Yao said. "This is just the start of many years (of competition between them) to come."

    Yao, the first player taken in the NBA Draft, and Stoudemire, taken ninth, had similar statistics throughout the season.

    Stoudemire averaged 13.5 points, 8.8 rebounds, 1.1 blocked shots and one assist per game. He made 47.2 percent of his shots and 66.1 percent of his free throws.

    Yao averaged 13.5 points 8.2 rebounds, 1.8 blocked shots and 2.8 assists per game. He made 49.8 percent of his shots and 81.1 percent of his free throws.

    The Suns, however, pulled away from the Rockets in the race for the last playoff spot, building a three-game lead before losing the final two games after already clinched the playoff spot.

    The Rockets, however, beat the Suns in three of their four meeting this season. Yao averaged 13.3 points and 6.8 rebounds, making 55.6 percent of his shots against the Suns. Stoudemire averaged 13 points and 6.5 rebounds, making 36.6 percent of his shots against the Rockets.


    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/topstory2/1880453
     
  11. yin

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    Realy sad news. But all-star is bigger than ROY.
     
  12. SwoLy-D

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    DId you forget Free-Throw percentage? 81-66. BULL.
     
  13. walls

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    he also conviently left out RBG
     
  14. lost_elephant

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    yep, yao got 8.6 boards per game in april. stoudemire got 7.0
     
  15. SwoLy-D

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    Sorry to quote you twice in a row, but I'm thinking that the last time that happened, the first place ROY won 6 championships to our 2nd place guy... I can't mention his name because i hate QUITTERS and GAMBLERS who played for Chicago and then Washington.

    By the way, you base your game,set,match on only April, are those stats what voters base the award on? :D :rolleyes: :D
     
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    I, too, felt that Stoudamire would get ROY based solely on the fact that Phoenix made the playoffs and Houston did not. Now had Yao carried the team on his back into the playoffs it might have been a different story.

    You really can't argue against the kid, however. He's giving the Spurs fits.
     
  18. SwoLy-D

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    They watch games that we otherwise know as SPORTSCENTER HIGHLIGHTS. All they probably have seen is Amare dunking on everyone and Shaq dunking all over Yao so they come to the conclusion that Amare MUST be better than Yao.
    :rolleyes:
     
  20. Fegwu

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    This is really not important but can you define "fits" for us? If there anyone giving Spurs fits it must be Starbury and no one else. Are you even watching the games?
     

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