You think? Yao is so loved, I think most die-hard Chinese fans are gonna support him regardless. Even so, after his contract expires, the Rockets will be one of the only teams that can offer him the max. That is, unless NY, LA or GS clear out a whole bunch of cap room to make a run at him. With the current CBA, my guess would be that the Rockets will be in the drivers seat when it comes time for him to re-up.
i don't believe the government will waste its time on yao. don't governments usually deal with economic and political issues? i don't remember basketball being a priority on their itinerary. whereever yao decides to play will most likely be the place he feels most comfortable playing and the place that can pay him the most and that's Houston. what chinese fans are saying that? most chinese fans don't think very highly of yao.
Codell, By the way are you interested in basketball videos? I was trying to send you a suggestion for Isiah vid about 8 months ago. But you have no email.
It's like comparing apples to trucks, Yao and Amare are totaly different players. One is all about the finesse and the teamwork. The other is about the hustle and the dunks. Whom ever wins the ROY award will still make it a pretty monumental moment; whether it being the first High School player or the first foreign player. We should be pround to have two players in the last 5 years be even considered for the ROY, hell I am.
one last point, it is said in this thread, and some share this opinion too that it is Amare's flash and dunks that gives him the edge for ROY... okay, two things, one, i thought these were basketball experts that were voting for ROY, shouldn't they be able to differentiate that a dunk is just two pts, and that not being able to play D, no go to move, clueless on set plays, and can only go right makes a player a r****d? obviously, critics deciding on dunks is latching onto to anything, anything at all not to give the award to Yao, hmm...just evidence of haters that Yao had to deal with all year... second, i started seriously watching the suns game after the allstar game....amare can't play D, has no go to move, doesn't pass...he's a goon...and you know what, in the second half of the season, his dunks were not apparent, nor deciding...there were no more olowokandi dunks...people have figured he can only go right...i dont see any dominance here at all...when rox beat the suns, in the second half, Yao got the better of him too...but he still is remembered for being this dunking machine...dear fellow rox fans, some reps are justified, others are just created because there are a lot of Yao haters out there that hate eating their own words... Oh, and why the hell is Yao the only rookie that is said to have hit the rookie wall? This is r****ded, all those other dudes have stunk it up during the year, including amare who was horrible in feb/mar...why doesn't espn coin a negative about them...? umm...haters anyone?
The deciding factor was the Suns making the playoffs, which is cool. My problem is for those who voted Butler ahead of Ming. That Miami team played in the east, had Eddie Jones and Brian Grant and got worse. If you take Ming and put him on that team, they're a 4-5 seed, you put Butler on this team and we would win 33 games. Thats the problem I have about him losing the ROY. The consolation prize is Hakeem,Mourning,and Magic never won the award despite having good rookie seasons. Its something good to have, but doesn't really carry that much weight.
I have not much passion towards Bill Walton, but he is the one who surpried me most. In the beginning of the season, he was heaping praises on Yao, comes Vote for ROY, he just hands it to Amare.
Everyone, stop whining about no one giving Yao the ball and that's why he lost ROY. I wish he would have won it as well, but you have to be rational. Amare gets way fewer touches than Yao yet scores the same number of points basically. As much as you say our guards hogged the ball from Yao, watch the next Phoenix game and see how many times Starbury bring the ball up and immediately dumps the ball down to Yao. In other words, Amare created all of his stats on his own, but all I ever hear on this board is how Yao's teammates didn't help him get points or take his rebounds away. Good God, has Yao ever done anything wrong? Has he ever been the blame for anything? Maybe if Yao had dominated the glass and been tougher inside and created cheap points for himself by his hustle, he would have gotten the award. I guess that's why I come across like a Yao hater when I'm not. I just hate whining. Also I see Yao becoming a really good player but not dominating the league which is crime number one to some people.
Jeff, I think you really hit the nail on the head with your post. Clearly there were a lot of voters that did NOT want to "eat their words" and were happy to choose Stoudamire and even Butler over Yao Ming. Perhaps voters were even turned off by the hype? And not just hype in general, but hype for a FOREIGNER! I am sure next year they already have produced the award for LeBron James no matter what he does and what someone else might do. Stoudamire is deserving of the award. I don't have a problem with that. But I do have a BIG problem from the clearly IGNORANT people that put Yao in THIRD PLACE in their ballots. There is ZERO logical reason for doing that unless you are 1) ignorant or 2) jealous. Whatever!
These basketball invalids won more games without Yao Ming two years ago than they did with him. Secondly, if Yao wants to leave, don't let the door hit him on the a$$ on his way out. I don't believe the Rockets should be held hostage by some foreign government. And for sure they will try to bring Yao to New York when his rookie contract is up. But Yao fans couldn't take it if Yao played in New York. I live here and I know how tough a sports town it is. The first time Yao tried the little flips and got them blocked and got dunked on, the fans here would start calling him a bum. They don't tolerate weak or soft play here. Yao fan would have a coronary hearing that many people dogging Yao. So you may think you want Yao to come to NY but you'd better be ready. So I say trade him to GS for Arenas, Jason Richardson, and Troy Murphy. He'll be happy out in GS with a large Chinese population, we can get our friggin board back, and the Rockets would have a lineup like this... Arenas Francis Richardson Murphy Cato With Mobley, Griffen, MoT, Rice off the bench
Now i've heard it all. Amare benefitted from constant dish-offs when his 2 all-star teammates were doubled. Thats how he got so many dunks, a la Cato. Yao, on the other hand is NEVER left alone. you think teams would leave him in favor of covering Cat or "can't shoot til its contract time" Posey? Yao got more touches because he was a more important part of our offense. He scored the same as amare because he was actually defended (sometimes by more than one defender ) .
I think Juugie is pretty funny actually and I don't mean that sarcastically. It's just humorous. He's found his niche and is playing it up. "Critical analysis" on why Yao is too soft or blah blah blah (like we don't already know this). What? Yao is soft????? No. Really????? I mean seriosuly, how many times can you post the same obvious things without sounding repetitive. Next thing you know, he'll be telling us Yao needs to bulk up and get some attitude. No. really?????
I actually enjoy his reading. If my memory serves me right, he was dissing Yao right from the begining.
That's a good point.I totally agree with you.Amare has two "M"s suport with Hardway help.While Yao has become one of the key of Rox defense and offense .I think Yao's all star center is full evidence that he is over ROY.
