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Anyone still believe in Tracy McGrady?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by nolimitnp, Jul 2, 2009.

  1. Rocket86

    Rocket86 Member

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    There better be moves to bring in a scoring option. The offense would be dependent on continuous movements and for the point guards to generate open looks for the shooters. It will be a journey when the team has to play the half court game. :(
     
  2. solid

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    DD, the bottom line is that the Rockets have gone from the Big 3 to the Big 0. Currently, they are a supporting cast with no one to support. I have no confidence that TMac is going to come back in All Star form and survive 82 games. He is a forty year old in the body of a man in his late twenties; there is every reason to believe that his career is waning. One of three things will most likely happen: (1) Morey will bring in some veteran talent but will have to give up some to get it (2) One or more of the supporting cast becomes a "star" and averages upper twenties, or (3) the Rockets go to the lottery after losing over fifty games.

    What some on the board believe is that TMac comes back in top form and "stars," Yao returns before the first of the year, neither have any further physical problems and Tmac, Yao, and the Rockets finish the season and roll into the playoffs. And the proposed health care reform will add nothing to the budget deficit, Glen Beck becomes a Communist, and Michael Jackson is spotted in Memphis.

    I want to believe, but without a genuine "SPLASH," something that rarely happens around these parts, we all wait for the 2010 season or come to believe that losing can be entertaining.
     
  3. Dave_78

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    You obviously don't read GARM.

    Once Trevor Ariza improves his handles he will be like Orlando McGrady. He's also a deadly shooter and the best defender ever. Hell, Tmac1 says he is one of the best shooters in the league and if you eliminate all of his poor shooting games from last season it's easy to see that is true.

    We can pencil in Ariza for 24/6/6 for sure. Good job Morey!!!!
     
  4. t_mac1

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    do you really read people's posts? i said one of the best "wide open spot up" shooters in the L. you don't hear mike breen saying "automatic" everytime he shot in the finals series? geez.

    he shot 48% from 3s through the PLAYOFFS. shane battier has the same type of open shots and he shot 31%. but hey, you still claim shane's a better shooter :eek:

    but what do i know? when commentators start saying, "splash/automatic" after you shoot... but again, what do i know?
     
  5. Jeff Who

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    When we talk about center, the situation now looks completly hopeless. We have to make a trade or sing a free agent (if any good center is available - doubtful).

    Thanks. I did my best.

    Maybe, nevermind.

    The problem is Trevor will NOT have those wide open shots in Houston.
     
  6. Dave_78

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    36% FG in the Finals.

    AUTOMATIC!!!!
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    I think Ariza's shooting during the playoffs was a fluke. Normally he is not really an upper tier spot up shooter.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    if tracy comes back healthy, he'll get his share of open shots. he'll be getting the same types of shots shane was getting.

    only the homers will expect ariza to be some kind of star. he's not going to be one. but if we can pair ariza with a legit scorer, he should be fine. he's at best a 4th option.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    dude, do you even read what i post? i said SPOT UP WIDE OPEN JUMPSHOTS. most of those are 3s. he shot 42% from 3s in the finals. THAT'S GREAT.

    i'm sure dwight howard affected his 2 point shots. he's only the DPOY.
     
  10. t_mac1

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    it could be. however, ariza was NOT KNOWN as a shooter before this year. and it's reported by the lakers that he worked on his jumper relentlessly during his injury the year before.

    he started the year shooting around 20% from 3s for 2 months or so, but eventually brought it up to 32% for the year (so he did improve throughout the year). and he brought that improvement to another level in the playoffs.

    so we'll see. if he can get the same shots shane battier has been getting since he's been a rocket, i have no doubt he'll do better.
     
  11. McGreat1

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    this starting to look like a "ANYONE BELIEVE IN ARIZA THREAD" :D

    im not prejudging the dude we are yet to see what he can really do on the court.But i think its obvious that Ariza has loads to improve on.

    Mcgrady?yeah i still believe in him..
     
  12. Tom Bombadillo

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    Hopefully Trevor can get to 38-40 percent from three, like Battier. I think he can...


    The real question is, can he CREATE anything on his own?
     
  13. kenwonobi

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    I believe in Tmac and Ariza. If Tmac is back and Ariza and Battier are playing together? That is a heck of a lineup no matter if Tmac is just a slightly degraded superstar. Then you add in Budinger if he is good. That is the backup scoring 2 guard we never had. then Andersen. A stretch the defense shooting big we never had. Then throw in Pops a finally nicely sized backup Center/PF that we never had with size before and this team could be alot better than people think. Alot better. Tmacs health is key and when he comes back though. Andersen, Pops, Budinger, Taylor, Ariza. Thats alot of depth of players who can turn out real decent. Ariza is the most likely and Andersen. Battier, Landry, Scola, Brooks, and Lowry we already know those are all real quality players on any team. This is still potentially a deep team if Tmac comes back early. I would take this team over the one that lost to the Lakers if Tmac comes back healthy. The one after Yao went down that is and Artest tried to carry us. This team is better with Tmac and this cast than last years when Yao broke his foot and they still where good enough to almost win.
     
  14. mjharleem22

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    i dont expect people to believe me by just words when i say that i feel mcgrady will be back to his old form, u guys have to see it for yourself and take notice of his progress. if you will visit skillzlab.com you can follow his rehab. I am just saying before you write this guy out, see what he is trying to do to get himself back, however to see his videos you have to pay like 3.99 a month which isnt bad really, and jugding by yall, yall should be dedicated enough to see for yourselves
     
  15. Rockets111

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    I have no faith in Ariza as a go-to guy. Our biggest offseason acquisition is a glorified role player.

    As far as T-Mac, I hope he comes back and plays well and with reckless abandon. Not only will it help us, but it will also boost his stock in trade situations.

    He seems the type to want to desperately prove doubters wrong, and I really hope that's the case. It's a win-win for us.
     
  16. orbb

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    When you play with Kobe, you become a role player, all star or not. Ask Gasol. I hope he can surprise us and not turn into another episode of Smush Parker
     
  17. daywalker02

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    It is not necessary to have him as a go to guy at this point. Brooks and Scola are ahead of him in terms of offensive options. I would welcome him as the 3rd overall option until Tracy comes back and score more points in transition that is what he does best.
     
  18. daywalker02

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    He is long, athletic and has all the tools to become at least a borderline allstar. It is up to him to put all the hard work and blossom in the right environment. I believe he is going to improve his production dramatically on the offensive end but might not explode though as some ppl say.
     
  19. Dave_78

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    So what you're saying is he can hit shots that he won't get as a Rocket? I don't know if you have looked but the Rockets don't have a Kobe, Gasol or even an Odom on the roster.
     
  20. daywalker02

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    he's got to expand his game
     

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