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Anyone starting to lose a bit of faith in the front office?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DCHAMP, Feb 15, 2022.

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Are you still as confident in the front office?

Poll closed Feb 22, 2022.
  1. Yes

    31.5%
  2. No

    38.9%
  3. On the fence

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  1. snowconeman22

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    I lost any good will when I heard how he pronounced his name
     
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  2. jiggyfly

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    You have no issue with not getting more draft assets for veterans who have no place on a rebuild?

    Oladipo, Wood, Gordon?

    Why would you want oladipo over Levrt and Allen in the 1st place 2 guys who had way more trade value.
     
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  3. Corrosion

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    I think the overall record skews the perception of this team and its progress .... Either that or people aren't watching games, rather crying along with Clutchfans finest whiners who complain about all of the above, yet they readily admit they haven't watched a game since November. (That might make a more interesting poll - how many games have you watched this season).

    Let's start with Al P. Dude has gotten a steady diet of 18 minutes per game since the first time he stepped on the court - other than when he was injured.

    He's a young big .... There was talk early on of his conditioning being a factor. You don't want to overwork guys like him or you have long term injury issues.
    Lets not forget that he fouls an awful lot ....

    He's getting good minutes for a rookie big.


    Green has never really been the focal point of the offense. That's Wood and KPJ for the most part. He (Green) is very inconsistent, some days he'll hit a few and others .... not so much. Hard to blame that on Silar or Stone who have him in the gym with Lucas working on his shooting damn near every day. If he could shoot better than .300 from 3 you wouldn't be complaining - he averages 12+ shots a game - he just doesn't hit them regular.

    Christopher's minutes have been climbing steadily. When the season began, most thought he would spend most of the season with RGV - He's far exceeded those expectations. He started out getting spot minutes here and there and has played himself into a regular spot in the rotation and about 18 minutes a game. And .... He's on the floor when it matters - Closing Games. Not bad for a guy who was supposed to spend the year in the G league.

    Daishen Nix has played himself from a 2 way to a 4 year contract ....

    Mathews came out of nowhere and earned himself an NBA contract.

    KPJ has been playing great basketball the last month or so .... averaging 13/5/5/1 points, assists, rebounds, steals.
    He's also raised his 3point percentage by 69 points from last year .311 to .380


    I wouldn't worry about Schroder or EG taking a whole lot of minutes away from the youngsters for the rest of the year. EG hasn't averaged 30minutes per for the season and I fully expect him to get as the season winds down.

    Don't let their record nor Clutchfans Finest Whiners lead you to believe the sky is falling ....
     
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  4. Hemingway

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    I have been very patient in my assessment of Stone. I think he drafted well and believe JG will end up being an all-star level player and at the rest of the draft was really good. Getting Sengun and JC were really good moves that far down in the draft order. Picking up really good role players like KJM and Matthews were definite wins. The acquisition of Schroeder and subsequently playing him and Gordon at the expense of our other rookies, really has me scratching my head.

    I was in favor of going ahead and signing Nix, but really don’t understand why we wouldn’t give him the rest of the season to get his feet wet.
     
  5. conquistador#11

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    Rebuilds are ugly but they're necessary.
    With this front office and coaches it's like they want to delay the rebuild.
    Having a strong veteran presence is a good thing so I can roll with Gordon
    but this other guy pookie from New Jack taking minutes away from Josh. For what?
    Ain't no uzies made in Harlem, brehs.
     
  6. PatBev

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    Not gonna lie. Most faith I’ve had in a long time. I wasn’t a fan of how Morey did business
     
  7. kubli9

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    We have a lot of Tillman trolls here now. I’ve never seen this board so content being bad.
     
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  8. DaDakota

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    I can't believe that Tillman had Morey reporting to his son, that is some BULLSHIT level stuff right there.

    DD
     
  9. Corrosion

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    Interesting .... I really liked Morey. He was the only GM in the West trying to beat the Warriors, everyone else just gave up.


    But I like what Stone has done too, I think they are headed in the right direction, to me the vision is pretty clear, develop the young guys but to do that you need some veteran structure around them .... otherwise, they are gonna look like a total disaster.


    Stone does need to extract some value from EG between now and the next trade deadline and he has to make a decision on Wood .... if he doesn't, that's when I start complaining.

    So far, So good, So what ...
     
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  10. Haymitch

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    I started out as "on the fence" and have shifted more towards being less optimistic about the FO.
     
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  11. jiggyfly

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    What veteran structure does he have around them?

    Wood?
    Schroeder?

    If he had more guys like Gordon around them, I would be right with you and I don't think Wood is terrible but I would not say he is that positive of a teammate.

    I don't see a clear vision with this team, it's like they are trying to have it both ways.

    It seems they would be trying to play Wall to get his trade value up going into the last year of the contract.
     
  12. Sean Dr34ms

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    Actually?
     
  13. kubli9

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    Change your username to PatFertitta.
     
  14. marky :)

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    You weren't a fan of putting your team on the path to a better future?
     
  15. HoustonWest

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    Jury is still out, BUT I'm cautiously optimistic since the way I see it, Schröder is a piece that could be used along with Wood/Gordon as part of draft day sign and trades.

    Would like to see more experimentation with lineups as the season winds down, though fact is it's worth taking a step back and realizing a team giving heavy minutes to guys like Martin, Porter, Green, Sengun, Tate, Christopher, Mathews and possibly Nix and Garuba is going to be BAD.

    And that's fine for where the team is now. Individually these guys are playing well (Christopher + Martin + Tate in particular are consistent in their roles). Sengun seems to have 2-3 good to great games for every 1 bad one. Porter has steadily gotten better and Green is very slowly coming along, but the comfort for the team playing as a unit is not there yet.

    By the trade deadline next year you'd hope to see Porter, Green or Sengun take that next leap to be "the guy" which would help giving the Rockets an identity.

    And that's not factoring in the likely top-6 pick coming in to the food as well.

    Not every acquisition is going to be a hit, but at the very worst it would seem that Stone has put together enough assets to either organically get better or trade for an established star in the next two seasons.
     
  16. RocketsFido

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    I didn't want to believe it last year when those reports came out about Tilman being salty and refusing to trade Harden to the 76ers but after watching today's press conference where Harden and Morey openly talked about that trade, it's quite clear Tilman put his emotions first.

    We could've pressured Philly giving us Maxey and even more picks but it was reported Tilman refused to discuss the deal with Morey any longer and just chose the Nets.

    Yea, we probably would've lost out on Jalen Green but If 76ers gave us 3 picks/swaps with Ben Simmons and Maxey, that'd be the better package.
     
  17. futilman

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    Yeah I was talking about CP3. No doubt Morey was an enabler for Harden, but he was entirely successful until CP3 was pushed out but Tilman.
     
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  18. hakeemthagreat

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    He first has too clean up Morey's mess he left the organization
     
  19. CHAMPBOY

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    I do not understand why he do not play Green at the end of the games, there are alot of chances for Green to score over 20 points and Silas just take him out. I know he is trying to lose but play your young guys. Gordon is a waste playing right now....why is he playing? He need to say his knee hurt and sit out the rest of the games. Christopher needs 30 minutes a game, Sengun needs 30 minutes a game and Green needs to shoot at least 15 times a game. Porter was not aggressive in the last game but he needs to play downhill. We should trade Wood to move up in the draft. I would love to have either the top 3 players and Kessler from Auburn, we need more size and rim protectors
     
  20. DatRocketFan

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    I honestly am starting to doubt Silas ability to coach. Especially if we are getting blown out by such huge margin while playing vets heavy mins.

    Sengun fouls a lot less now. His mins are not consistent, and he isn't utilized to the best of his abilities. His greatest strength as a passer isn't being utilized properly b/c Silas's offense is jumbled convoluted mess, with too many ball dominant players. (wood, kpj)

    Green is our prized rookie, yet like u mentioned isn't the focal point of the offense. Yes he whiffs shots, but he is not in an offense that sets him up to easy looks. U noticed when he plays with Sengun, he looks like an entirely different player than when alongside Wood and KPJ?

    Christopher deserves more mins in general. It's not a good look seeing a player tries his best to earn them mins just to be given as much mins as the newly acquired vet.

    In general Silas doesn't seemed to have a set goal.
    Is he developing the rookies?
    Is he playing the vets more mins to win?

    He ends up looking incompetent at both.

    We sat Wall to avoid a vet taking up mins to develop the rook, yet nothing really changed.
     
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