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Anyone remember the old Jason Williams?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by geeimsobored, Oct 2, 2006.

  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Even with Hubie, Jason did crazy stuff on the court
     
  2. Kim

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    That Sacramento team was so much fun. They were talented and knocked the Jazz out of the playoffs during the later years of Dirty Stockton and Malone. Oh wait, that wasn't until Bibby came along...yeah, they were better with Bibby (though he totally blew last year's playoffs)...but still, that J-Will team was great.

    Divac, C-Webb, Stojakavic, Christie, J-Will, Bobby Jax, Turkeyglue, Jon Barry, Pollard....that was a damn talented team full of shooters.
     
  3. Kam

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    Yeah, those old Sacramento teams were fun.


    Maxwell was on one of those teams, right?
     
  4. Rashmon

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    Even though I marvel at the dexterity of JWill and Rafer, I guess when the refs stopped calling "palming" it opened the game up for a lot more "handles" than they would have allowed Pistol Pete or Tiny Archibald.

    I lost count of the carrying violations in that Rafer video.
     
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    I agree that it's not the most efficient style, but for all the flashy play throughout his career, JWill never had an assist to turnover ratio lower than 2:1, boasts a ratio of 2.7:1 for his career and 3.4:1 in his last 4 seasons. I certainly wouldn't consider that turnover prone.

    For a comparison, go look at Maravich. Not only were his APG not particularly outstanding but the assist to turnover ratio was flat out not good. Some years it was below 1:1.
     
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    What these highlight videos can not show is White Chocolate's consistency (or lack thereof). Even at his best, he was as up-and-down as any player in the NBA. He'd have a game where he looked like the best PG in the league and follow it up with one where he made dozens of boneheaded mistakes and couldn't make a shot for love or money. He's one of those guys who I always loved to watch, but was glad he wasn't on any team I rooted for.
     
  7. ClutchCityReturns

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    Two responses to this post...

    "Amen"

    and

    "Obviously"

    If a guy played like that every single night, he'd be the best point guard in the league and the spectacle of the professional sports world. I mean, people tune in to the Sportscenter Top 10 just to see 2 identical LeBron dunks every night. They'd have to have JWill's top 10 plays on the side.
     
  8. OmegaSupreme

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    man... why does that song make a highlight clip 100 times better than it really is and make the person seem like god's gift to earth? i'm like rafer's ultimate fan now or something. weird. :eek:
     
  9. ClutchCityReturns

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    Personally I think it's a terrible song for that video. At one point it felt like something that would be shown at a funeral service or something. I half expected it to say "R.I.P. Rafer 'Skip To My Lou' Alston, 1976-2006".

    It's a streetball tribute, dammit. Play a song with the N word in it 50 times :mad:


    j/k about the last part.
     
  10. Genuine

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    Anyone got a Kings J-Will jersey? I'll buy or trade if you want to give it up.
     
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    he had some wicked moves, but in the old days they we more lax with the rules... i.e. one of his favourite moves was the fake behind the back whilst hopping in the air to shake his defender... can't do that any more, i remember Tmac tried the same move and dished to Yao a few seasons ago, but the refs called travelling...
     
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    Wasn't that Peja?

    Best pass was the behind the back bounce pass from behind the 3point line. He hit Swift i belive for a layup. I think that was his last year in Memphis
     
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    Yeah the Kings used to be an up and coming team, they were the Suns before the Suns. Exciting to watch, definitely different from the 90s grind it out game
     
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    No it was LaFrentz. It was in the Rookie v. Sophs game at the All Star Break.
     
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    That Kings team was so much fun to watch, Jason Williams had about as exciting as a rookie year that I have ever seen.
     
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    That's because Alston wants to be an NBA player and JWill wants to be a streetballer. Well until more recent years anyway. Alston's trying to shed his "streetballer" image when he's in the NBA - JWill wanted to be that flashy playground player on every play. Alston could destroy a lot of people off the dribble, but he'd also end up hogging the ball and having JVG shoot him.
     
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    He would also be averaging 5 turnovers a game. Most people forget what a gigantic turnover machine JWill was during those first few years.

    The Streetball style just doesn't translate. The Kings never reached the next level until they traded for Bibby who played the game like an NBA point guard. JWill only figured that out when Hubie Brown showed up.

    But I wish he'd go back to the old stuff, just so I could get a continuous stream of highlights. Man those old Kings games were so much fun to watch.
     
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    Yea, it's sad really.

    I think it has a lot to do with the system that's in place in Miami. This is Pat Riley's team, so you know it's not going to be Phoenix Suns style basketball. Same with Hubie Brown's Grizzlies. Within the right situation, the old JWill may show up.
     

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