Exactly. Stromile Swift part deaux. No thanks. I think Landry may be as good or better, and he puts in far more effort and has a much better work ethic. Believe it or not, that matters to a team. The fact we have a team full of guys like that is why we were able to beat the Lakers twice without Yao. Tyrus Thomas is another one of those guys with lots of ability and no heart.
I like thomas, put him on the floor with lowry, wafer, landry and artest (if he's here) and the toyota center will be slamming with high flying acts.
Tyrus, is all good except being lazy.......... I'd take him over Scola for his dunk and jumping ability but I doubt any lazy player can survive under Adelman.
the deal is a bad one because you're comparing one to the other. This doesn't involved Lamarcus, so it's all about Tyrus, not how he compares to Aldridge. Tyrus alone has done well so far and continue to improve and he has yet to really receive consistent minutes.
Maybe when it comes to pure numbers, but on the court I think Tyrus has clearly surpassed Swift. It may be just pure pride and desire, like you mentioned, that he has over Stromile, but that counts. Tyrus is also a better overall defender and he's almost 2 years younger, so even if he's putting up similar numbers, he's already ahead based on age as well.
IDK what they was thinking if they think Thomas is too much like Noah. Thomas is offense and slightly defense as Noah is pure Defense and no offense
i think they mean they both don't have polished offensive game, Tyrus isn't exactly a post player, gets most of his offense on putbacks, jumpers, hooks, etc....It's kind of like us having Lndry and Hayes, but still needing a Scola. they have their landry and hayes in thomas and noah, but they want a Scola.
it would be nice if you put the complete stats, and not just what favors Landry. Landry is a nice player, but in our same offense i think Thomas can put up better FG% and his blocks and steals blow Landry out of the water. He may also foul slightly less and he playes more minutes than Carl. Also, Landry also benefits from being able to roam, while whoever is playing C at the time, scola or Yao, are big parts of the offense, so they dont roam as much. Witht he bulls, both noah and tyrus roam, and therefore share scrapping up the leftovers of their other guys, so that's another reason why i think Thomas would put up better number in Landry's role, including rebounding and points.
Numbers can lie. All I'm saying is I think its unfair to compare the two because they play in different conferences. Who knows how Tyrus Thomas would match up against stronger and quicker guys like Gasol and Jefferson.
I didnt go through al you posted and the link, but i'm taking your word for it....but i still believe on this team he'd do better. chicago is a young team that sometimes goofs around too much, you put a young kid in that environment and they get off track sometimes...i dont think Landry would be this good had he gone to that type of team, he's being helped a lot by having vets and good mentors around him. Tyrus needs that kind of help. Yes there's been a lot of talk about him being lazy, but there's been just as much talk about the coaches being inconsistent with him, he playes well and is still benched, part of the reason is because they had to many pf/c that they keep juggling them to see who's a keeper, that type of inconsistency can mess with a player's head and therefore his demeanor ont he court.
Thats the kind of player we need next to Yao. I think the organization thought they had that with Stromile but we all know how that turned out. What makes it even worst is McGrady opening his mouth talking about Im going to turn stromile into an all star. lol unbelievable.
Jumper at least as good as Landry's? You kidding me? Plus they won't do it unless it was for Scola, which would be a HORRIBLE deal for us. Just plain HORRIBLE.
That's the point i'm trying to make...the bulls don't want that kind of player because they dont have a post presence, they're looking for their Scola or Yao to pair up with Noah....we already have the post presence and need someone like Thomas to compliment that.
Bingo. TT has been known for his inconsistency.To his credit,he has done better this year. Noah seems like a high energy,high IQ player without the J that Tyrus has. Noah is a superior defender and is a reliable player.
You have to look at the team he is playing with and the team he could be playing with. The Bulls don't really have anyone where opposing teams can focus on. As to if he was on the Rockets it would be a good fit for him because he wouldn't be asked to do so much.
yeah I admit i messed up there, i thought Thomas had shot a lot better and i know Landry shot well, but i didnt realize how well, but i was also refering to shooting form and ability to hit under the same situations. Nwo i'm not sure how many of Thomas' jumpers are wide open, but i have notice Landry's seem to be most of the time. Thomas mechanics aren't bad at all, i think he could hit more under the same circumstances, but he probably wouldn't have to, his size, combined with leaping ability, would allow him to get even more open looks at the rim than Landry currently does. As much as landry gets open under the rim for dunks and layups, sometimes he gets stuck down there going up against taller players. I wrote earlier tyrus may foul less in more minutes, but he actually fouls slightly more, but it's less than half a foul even though he plays 7 more minutes. Landry's lack of height sometimes leave's him with no choice but to foul, with Thomas, that's not the case, and it should increase our defensive efficiency even more. If you limit Thomas' perimter shots, then their shooting be a real drop in offensive efficiency and should actually go up if he's roaming around picking up Yao's leftovers.
The only thing Thomas can do better than Landry is block shots. They both can really fly and Landry is alittle taller than Thomas, but Thomas has the longer reach. If I were picking between the two players in a pickup game I would take Landry. Thomas has more upside and will probably be the better player down the road. I love shotblocking and Thomas does sound very enticing.
