I'd rather they figure out that fusion. In my opinion more tech is better when it comes to self driving. Radar in other applications seems to be such a key factor in detection. Maybe it's not needed 1-5% of the time but it's going to be that 1-5% that might save your life, otherwise vision only in current real time situations seems to be limiting itself by either not allowing engagement at all or reducing speeds to unsafe conditions. I think they needed to do more testing before they released it but then again, Google/Tesla customers are basically guinea pigs.
Foreign companies still make cars in the USA, and Toyota probably employs more Americans than Tesla does. As do other foreign companies.
They don't make EVs in the US, those are imported. Also the original bill that was meant to accelerate development disincentivizes first movers, defeating it's intended purpose, that's the point and why it needs to be changed. Not who employs the most Americans. The fact that American companies are getting hurt is just why it is getting bipartisan support.
Ready your own article. Scheduled for 2022 production. None make their EVs in the US currently. And by 2022 the new ev credit will be passed.
What? So now it's currently? That's the point, they will be making ev in the U.S. so they will not all be imported, while the credit is available and you have all of the american manufacturers will benefit from the credit.
Currently the two largest US EV makers do not qualify while imported foreign ones do, that's why the ev credit is going to be reinstated with bipartisan support. What's so hard to understand about that? I'm not stating an opinion, this is what's going to happen, what are you arguing about?
Yea… there’s no way Germany, S Korea, and Japan allow their own powerful auto industries to get swallowed or outcompeted by Tesla over the long term. China has its own EV industry it wants to subsidize and grow now they have American, government funded tech.
I am not arguing anything just stating that there will be foreign Ev's built in the U.S. which you claimed were not. Did not know we were talking about a time frame.
I claimed there are not, which is what is relevant for a law that's in effect today. I don't know what will be the case next year or the year after or in 50 years.
Two years ago Teslas were occasionally spotted in the wild around here. Now you're likely to see one if you just run to the store and back. I haven't spotted any of the other EVs.
That's what happens when you own 80% of the entire US EV market. Two years ago they said competition was coming, today they say competition is coming, in two years from now competition is still going to be coming. Ford just reported they sold 1900 Mach e the entire month on May, this is the competition people in here are talking about when tesla is going to sell 200k this quarter?
Btw I WISH competition was actually coming. 97% of the US market is still gasoline cars, for vast majority of buyers the decision is between going ev vs going gas(and most still choose gas), not whether to go tesla or mach e. The more competition, the more automakers push their own evs, the more overall ev adoption and acceptance, the more infrastructure will be built for charging etc. The biggest beneficiary of all that is the leader and only pure play in ev which is tesla. They don't need to hang on to 80% market share, if all they had was 25% market share but with a ev adoption of 90% instead of 3%, that would be an extremely prosperous future for Tesla. So I'm all for competition! Unfortunately look at reality and there just isn't any, which means Tesla will have to continue to drag theses other automakers kicking and screaming along.
So you think every other carmaker is targeting U.S. market share fort ***** and giggles? So far this year the Mach E has outsold the model S and the model E. And then you have this. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g36278968/best-selling-evs-of-2021/ It's been almost four years since the Model 3 first hit the road, but it's still remarkable for its combination of class-leading range and a relatively low price. The Model 3's minimalist design and massive touchscreen control center set trends for the rest of the EV market, and customers have flocked to the car. But the Model 3's massive popularity has taken a hit in the last year. The 23,110 sales that Tesla notched in the first quarter of 2021 represented a 45 percent decline compared to the first quarter of last year. What's to blame for the big change in interest? Click through to find out.
The US government isn’t going to allow Tesla to swallow or outcompete major US automakers long term. We are still in the early innings of EV and the subsidies are about to ramp up along with the competition. There’s no doubt Tesla has a formidable head start and a strong brand but it won’t take over the market. That’s just fanciful.
The mach e has out sold the Model s and x this year? You can't actually be this dumb. The Model s and x have not been produced this year due to the refresh that Tesla just launched and started delivering last week. The few s and x they have delivered this year were from inventory which quickly ran out, there has been 0 new production, so good job beating 0? Now that the refresh s and x are here how much do you want to bet they sell more than the mach e. How much do you want to bet they sell 10 times the mach e the rest of the year? Come on, put your money on your competition or else it is all talk. Also I know your problem now, you literally can't read. You keep linking to articles that apparently you haven't read through. Model 3 sales down -45%(only in the US), click through to find out why. Guess you stopped there instead of clicking through since it fit your narrative. "The Tesla Model Y went on sale last summer and quickly eclipsed demand for all of Tesla's other offerings. In fact, more people bought Model Ys last quarter than bought all other non-Tesla EVs combined (that doesn't include the EVs sold by Kia and Polestar, for which there is no public sales data). " Model Y only started going on sale q1 2020 and delivered 1200 units, that's why it was mostly Model 3. Now model Y account for more EV sales than all other EVS COMBINED, that's why the drop off on model 3. https://www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs.com/news/503794/tesla-2021q1-final-deliveries-outlook/amp/ Q1 2021 deliveries overall were up 109% from q1 2020, and best quarter ever. Oh the competition! Idiot.
What does take over the market mean? They should have 25% market share over the long term when evs become the predominant mode of transport. That leaves plenty of room for others, I've never argued against that. But that's over the long term, there are no comparable evs in terms of price for range for capability, today.
You realize Tesla IS the major US automaker when it comes to EVs. The US government is going to protect poor little Mexican made Fords over CA and TX made Teslas?
Broke world record for quarter mile. Jay Leno loves American ingenuity. Nah I'll take a mach e instead, said no one ever.
