You have to know this isn't relevant to the conversation. People dying because they fall off a roof installing solar panels isn't the same conversation as a nuclear meltdown or waste site failure with radiation effects for up to 10 billion years.
Cost in human lives being orders of magnitude higher is irrelevant to a safety conversation? that's amazin How many people died in the three mile island incident? a station that puts out 7K GWh a year and has been running since the 60's. If we are talking about waste please tell me about your plans for heavy metal wastes needed for batteries.
It's not that the cost of human lives isn't important on this subject, it's just that it's not due to the energy its self like nuclear energy. It's due to poor safety conditions and equipment when being on a roof... same with all roofing jobs. Solar doesn't need to be on roofs. It's just a silly argument when comparing it to the inconceivably long-lasting effects on our health / environment due to radiation. Nuclear disaster death tolls also don't take into account early deaths from cancer due to it being very hard to measure. Try checking out thyroid cancer in Pennsylvania. I don't have plans for heavy metal waste from batteries, nor the toxic materials used for solar panels. In fact, production of wind turbines creates nuclear waste and I have the same objection to that as nuclear energy plants. These are problems that need to be discussed and handled and I'm absolutely not arguing against that.
I do think Musk is on some prescription meds perhaps. He's admitted that he needs ambien to sleep. I don't think him smoking and not inhaling weed is a big deal though. He's the person that thinks THC doesn't get you high because he does not how to properly smoke.
Fukushima was built using the old tech, not the container technology the scientists in Nevada used. Again, check out Nova: the nuclear option on Netflix. It's by scientists. Science. Due to campaigning by big oil in the 70s, the new technology (for safety and a science to contain all spills explosions) never went mainstream. Bad things are currently happening with fossil fuels. Increased magnitude of disasters, health crises, global wars led by the US to secure oil ... lots more deaths than anything nuclear plant related. Feel free to come to an opinion after listening to what scientists on ALL sides of the nuclear story have to say. The slow death we're living under fossil fuels needs immediate change. Even with India and China building huge solar farms , they wont come close to meeting the demand for electricity in a best case scenario.
He seems to be anti all energy, so I don't think facts on how safe nukes are will sway opinion. I mean, you are a population control extremist and don't think he is reasonable, what chance does mainstream science have?
Nuclear has its place but someone has to answer the storage question. I think Finland is the only country in the world with a permanent spent rod facility and even that is only designed for 100 years of used rods. Yucca Mountain has been debated endlessly and been killed every time. And until we commit to permanent storage, nuclear energy will always have problems. We can't keep storing rods at nuclear sites in temporary facilities. If you're going to commit to nuclear, you need to commit to a solution for permanent storage of spent rods.
I've watched that documentary a few times before but I watched it again to refresh me, and it doesn't really add or change anything that has been discussed. Like I said earlier, if a new development came along that eliminates all chances of a meltdown as well as any type of nuclear waste being created, then I'm all ears. This simple fact is that's not what we have, whether you believe it's from big oil campaigning or something else, it's just not what we have. Also, I don't get why you call Fukushima old when the vast majority of power plants operating right now were built in the exact same era, what does that mean for our safety? Even if we for some reason.. pretend like we won't have another power plant meltdown (and that just absolutely silly assumption) We still have absolutely no idea what to do with the toxic waste that contains extremely toxic radioactive elements that last up to 10 billion years, it isn't and hasn't been stored safely. Ever. This is absolutely a crisis. This is something that just cannot be looked over but yet you have tried multiple times in this conversation. You keep mentioning global warming, I understand global warming, It's a crisis. So is nuclear waste and meltdowns. I rewatched the Nova film, i'll ask you to watch these films on two US nuclear storage sites. What have I said that's against mainstream science, what facts have been presented saying nuclear meltdowns and waste are safe and when did I say I'm anti-energy? I'm dying to hear it.
Again, those problems cant be imposed on the proposed nuclear plants because you're not acknowledging the difference in technology and build with it's own containment mechanism. Would you critique a car from today using the flaws from an 80s car? Once you acknowledge that like Bill Gates, who's put a lot of his money into nuclear, you'll see how close we are to utilizing / recycling nuclear waste and getting something very reasonable out of this. I'm a fan of cheap rockets by Tesla carrying nuclear waste to space , or dropping them off on asteroids they will be mining minerals from. https://www.smh.com.au/business/bil...first-nuclear-technology-20171106-gzfrf0.html
https://www.smh.com.au/business/bil...first-nuclear-technology-20171106-gzfrf0.html Re use without separating the plutonium from waste uranium.
We don't do anything effective but your question shows your psychopathic tendencies in comparing human beings with brains capable of changing the world to an invasive species. Louis Pasteur grew up poor and was a subpar student and gave us a massive increase in milk supplies. His mind created exponentially more milk than his body required to live. Humans create resources.
This kind of lazy thinking is dangerous. The exception, not the norm, hoping 1 of your 12 kids is the next lebron james. Populate as much as possible and hope it all works out. My initial comment, not in here, was in regards to illegals who keep having chain babies, at least 4 or 5. Moderation is an important quality to be exercised in all aspects of life, in case you didnt notice, the quality of life is terrible for the majority in Africa , central America and rural parts of Asia. You are at the top of the capitalist chain so can afford to harbor your delusions. When you make smart decisions over the course of time, you wont be sitting around laying for miracles and citing louis pasteur.
It isn't a delusion it is a direct result of division of labor, increased consumer base, hugely diversified market and competition. Different than hopping to win a lottery ticket. No feral hog has ever mended my fences or grown wheat in my pasture. Nick Steinsberger created a way to access clean burning natgas.
Again for you, the vast majority of currently operating power plants are were built in the 60's - 80's meaning they have the same tech as Fukushima. This still creates nuclear waste, nuclear waste that we have no idea how to store because it has toxic radioactive elements that last up to 10 billion years which is longer then humans will be able to survive on earth. We don't have rockets blasting nuclear waste into space right now. You are arguing like this future technology is present, like the "old" power plants aren't still the majority, and like nuclear waste sites aren't failing causing a crisis. Meltdowns can still happen, we still have no idea what to do with our toxic nuclear waste which remains a crisis for human/environmental health, especially considering how incredibly long the radiation it creates last and the difficulty we have even temporarily storing it. I don't know what else can be said.
