Please. This isn't the era of musket balls. Some yahoos aren't going to crash through the gate at Fort Bragg in the back of a pickup to put down a military coup. Red Dawn is a movie. You need to come back to reality. Now, lots of stuff guys do that is fun for guys is phallic in nature... swinging a baseball bat, zinging a rod-n-reel, whacking away with an ax, straddling a Harley, slicing trees with a chainsaw, shooting guns... all of that is damn fun... in moderation. When guys start dreaming of chainsaws or walking around all day fondling their bat or become obsessed with their guns, well, it's both a little wierd and a little pathetic. The name's Francis Sawyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you. Also, I don't like no one touching my stuff. So just keep your meathooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I'll kill you. And I don't like nobody touching me. Any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you. Lighten up Casey.
If the people follow the law then whats the problem? Anyone with half a brain can make weapons that are currently listed as destructive devices (i just guess you are going here) but don't because they don't want any and because its against the law. What weapons are you talking about.
Obviously you can load guns when they are to be used, but leaving them fully loaded and unlocked goes against every gun training I have ever had, seen, or even heard about since I was in the Boy Scouts.
Unless you have very limited time and are very scared. And could be using this valuable time to get rid of the reason you are loading the gun. If you feel you need your gun to be unloaded for you to be safe then thats fine. I feel safer with my defense purpose guns loaded. Why should the .gov regulate what I do in my bedroom....wait where have i heard that before?
Well, I'd think if our military can't put down an insurgency in Iraq, they would have the same problems trying it here. Not without that magic 8-1 ratio. It's at the very edges of sanity to think it could happen here. Then again, I never thought I'd see our government do a lot of things it has done in the past 6 years.
You still havent answered the question posed to you several times. Why are automatic guns needed for personal defense? If you need that many shots to defend yourself, I recommend some marksmenship classes. hell...at least ROXRAN recognizes the need for gun safety....he is a gun nut, you are just a wackjob or a troll...I havent figgered it out et.
I have answered this question you just didn;t read it or just refuse to listen. "Need" is different for different people. You may not"need" any guns. I want the best. Why is the MP5 the gun of choice for pros that clear houses? Maybe its because no one said "all you need is a 1942 M1 Garand we already have millions of those then we don;t have to buy these new expensive guns" Defending your home against home invasion is alot like clearing a house. Are you telling me the military's best need shooting lessons? high capacity, more accurate, easier to handle and aim. Ever shot one? Putting 2-3 rounds on target is much easier and faster than with a handgun. Its better, plain and simple. BTW since I'm new here no one is gonna hate me cause they disagree right? I still want access to your rockets vids and highlights.
I apologize for joining the dog pile but I find this very irresponsible. Its a basic safety issue for you and your family. Legally I can keep dangerous solvents and toxins but it would be foolish of me to leave such things lying around where kids could access them or where someone could knock over a container. I don't even have kids and am doing work on my house but I don't leave power saws and drills sitting around plugged with their bits in or their batteries on. There is just too much of a risk of accident. For that matter with guns there is a danger of them being taken away and used against you and others. What if you're in a really deep sleep and someone breaks in and finds your guns sitting there unlocked and loaded before you wake up in time. As I said before I believe it is your right to own guns. Its your right to leave them unlocked and loaded on your coffee table but there's a difference between what you have a right to versus acting responsibly.
The problem is that unregulated weapons are much more accessible to criminals than regulated ones. Making it easier to for criminals to get weapons that can cause massive mayhem (rocket launchers, high explosives, etc.) seems the definition of insane to me. This is where the welfare of the general population outweighs the individual's right to possess weapons, in my mind. I'm not going to call you zealot, but I will say that your views are in the extreme minority in this country. Most people do not support a ban on guns, but only a tiny fraction of the population thinks there should be no regulation at all on possession of any type of weapon.
I don;t have kids either but I am pretty sure it easier for them to drink some bleach than to shoot themselves with a handgun made for an adult. Thats if they find it and ofcourse I would not leave it sitting around in the open. The simple fact is gun accident in the home are really low. Its not the pressing issue that everyone thinks it is. In your senario which is remotely possible I guess they would have to have a reason to harm me in order for them to get close enough to me to see my gun. And if I am in such a deep sleep then I am screwed if I had a gun there or not. I am planning for the one where they are making off with my TV or car and upon waking up, hearing a noise I go to investigate. How many times has the wife said"what was that noise? go see what it is" There is a remote chance its a dirtbag without a care in the world for human life who would rather just have my laptop but won't mind shooting me if he sees me.
What you feel, and what gun safety teaches aren't the same thing. You have no idea what you are talking about. You talked about gun training in the same post that you flaunted the first rule of gun safety. You do so because you feel like you need to. I never suggested the govt. regulate what you do in your bedroom or with your guns, I did mention standard gun safety procedure which you seem to know nothing about.
So what about the Oklahoma city bombing? Used common materials easily obtained. Anyone with a book and a credit card can do it. The fact is only nutjobs want to. The rest of use just want to eat, sleep, screw, and watch sports. I just don't see a need for the.gov to go against the constitution for no reason. Its notlike if grenades were legal that Texas would be instatly transformed into Somalia. Same crap said about the Texas CHL law in 1995. That we were gonna go back to the old wild wild west days. Turns out people who carry are FAR less likely to commit crimes, violent crimes in particular.
Well sure a gun safety instructor might say that. The safest thing for criminals is if you turn in your guns now. Go to a real gun instructor that is trying to teach you how to survive a home invasion.
I disagree with the NRA on alot of stuff. They are a political organization. They have to position themselves the best way to make political moves. Its all for the kids right? Its an easy line to sell and hard to defend. But home accident stats prove other wise.
At the same time though you wouldn't leave a bottle of bleach with the cap off where kids could grab it. I agree that compared to all of the other dangers in a house gun accidents are low but I attribute that to responsible gun ownership that includes leaving guns where they cannot easily be accessed by kids, or others and in a state where they aren't ready to use. If someone is downstairs stealing your TV and you har them how much extra time is it going to take to unlock a nightstand drawer and put a clip into your gun? You're right if you're sound asleep and they're in your bedroom then you might be screwed already that said even if you wake up they're in your bedroom and your gun is sitting there unlocked and loaded there's no guarentee you get to it first. Personally for me if someone is 5 feet away from me I have far more trust in engaging them hand to hand than tyring to go for a gun. (then again I have a personal bias in that regard.) Barring who gets the gun first if you've got a gun loaded and unlocked there still is always the problem of accidental discharge. It just seems to me that by leaving gun unlocked and loaded you're putting yourself at greater risk for only a slighter advantage in personal safety.
By the way, I heard the first thing on the Dems agenda is to pass a law that removes the Bible from hotel rooms and then replaces it with the Communist Manifesto. The second law they will force Bush to sign requires that all Boy Scout leaders must be gay. Third on their agenda is to do away with regular coffee and make everyone drink lattes. Also, Dems are going to outlaw SUVs and make everyone drive those little hybrids. Finally, they will allow all drug addicts to steal one TV per week to pay for their habit. Pelosi just said, "Our governing philosophy is to do the most outrageous and unthinkable things. At some point, we even hope to bring a bill that will do away with habeus corpus. What? Already done? Well, nevermind."
I will tell you how to survive a home invasion. Lock your doors, keep screens on your windows, install motion sensor lights on the outside of your house, and keep a phone handy at all times with the police on speed dial. Next know your house well, plan and rehearse multiple escape routes. Know your neighbors so that they can help keep an eye on your house and so you can take shelter in theirs if you have to make a fast exit. Prevention and avoidance are far more affective than having to fight your way out of any potential attack and I'm saying this as someone who has been burglarized and even once fought off someone who was trying to climb into my bedroom window.
