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Anyone else going to buy Guns and Ammo?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Bandwagoner, Nov 8, 2006.

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  1. Bandwagoner

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    You are right. That is now 2 moot points that you posted.
     
  2. Ottomaton

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    Apparently you don't know everything.

    Machine Gun Dealer #1

    Machine Gun Dealer #2

    ...and there are many more. You can buy a machine gun and it has always been legal in this country. There is a $200 tax and you have to wait around 6 months for the ATF to clear the paperwork but they are all over the place if you look.

    I am met with a guy who has the license to handle Class III transfers who lives in the Houston Area, if you want to pick one up.
     
  3. compucomp

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    You need more than 11 shots to shoot a crackhead with an old kitchen knife? Maybe you should to go the firing range and practice your marksmanship.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    So you agree that you have no practical use for an assault rifle? Why are you stockpiling them then? :confused:

    EDIT: actually screw it, don't tell me, I don't care.
     
  5. Bandwagoner

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    I own a registered reciever. A highly unfair tax is another form of a ban. They used interstate commerce law to ban machine guns. Call it a restriction if you want I'll call it a ban. Anyone with 200 bucks of disposable income in 1934 (right after the GP) was in the minority.
     
  6. Bandwagoner

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    Thanks. Leave the thread then.

    If you mean semi auto rifles (assault rifles are full auto) then they have advantages over handguns for self defense.
     
  7. Bandwagoner

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    Maybe the governement should give law abiding people every advantage they can get over criminals, instead of giving criminals the advantage. Remember if you pass a law banning guns criminals don;t really care.
     
  8. Ottomaton

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    Define 'unfair' in this context.

    If you mean large then I guess under your definition the IRS is in the business of banning income?
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    Tax on something just for the purposes of making it unavailable by almost everyone. $200 was alot in 1934.

    They also limited the manufacture of them in 1986 for use by non-military and non-leo. So now there are a limited number of MG out there that you can buy legally.

    Another unfair tax would be taxing say 20 bucks for every Big Mac sold. And considering guns sold for about 5 bucks back in 1934 it would be much less tax.
     
  10. Deckard

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    Well, he finally, after setting a modern record for not doing it, vetoed one bill... as was mentioned, the stem cell research bill, which cost his party some votes in the election, imo. So you don't trust Bush to use his veto. Frankly, I don't blame you, because I trust the man as far as I can spit. Which begs the question... if you don't trust Bush, the standard bearer and golden boy of the Republican Party the last several years, and you clearly don't trust Democrats, regardless of what anyone says who happens to be one, who do you trust? No one? Do you even bother to vote? If so, why? You can't trust either party, after all.

    Do you see what I'm getting at? Instead of getting all worked up over a great, in my opinion, Democratic congressional victory, why not wait and see what happens? Why immediately go into complete paranoia about what you think Democrats might do? All this time, you should have been concerned about the erosion of your personal liberties by the Republican Party. Yet you seem to be more worried about what the Democrats may, or may not do. Why not give them a chance? Ted Kennedy doesn't run the Democratic Party. Neither does Pelosi. She will run the House, but she won't run the Party. The Democratic Party, in case you weren't paying attention, just lurched to the center. Now, I'm a liberal, but I'm also for a strong national defense, keeping our right to bear arms... what I would like to describe as a JFK Democrat. A liberal on social issues, and a pragmatist on many others. I'm pleased with the lurch towards the center, because I want my political party to win elections. By winning elections, we, my party, are able to accomplish a lot on those social issues. And the lurch towards the center pretty much means little chance of anything being done to affect you and your guns. There may be some marginal things, which won't bother me, and will send you into some ballistic trajectory, but if I were you, I'd be far more worried about the GOP. They have a proven record of chipping away at our personal freedoms. That's more important to me than having 11 or 15 rounds in a clip. Hell, carry another freakin' clip, dude, if you're that worried!



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  11. Cannonball

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    And why exactly does a civilian need a machine gun for again?
     
  12. DonnyMost

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    LOL.

    I love it.

    This thread screams clutchcity.com debate before the Iraq War...
     
  13. Lil Pun

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    Time to break it in then.
     
  14. Sishir Chang

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    I already have.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Bandwagoner

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    It's called a magazine not a clip. Lampson voted against the AWB. Thats who got my vote.

    I thought you would be able to tell from my abortion argument that im not a hardcore conservative. G
    un nuts consider me a flaming liberal. Thats a quote. See how everyone has accepted you shouldn't be able to own an assault weapon (in reality a semi auto rifle?) Slippery Slope. Same method they are using against abortion, partial birth and notification laws.
     
  16. Sishir Chang

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    Guns don't cause suicides or murders but they sure make them easier.
     
  17. Bandwagoner

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    These arguments don't carry outside of the D&D forum do they? I'm new here and don't want to jack up my Rox forum.
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    Nah dude, D&D is tailor made for this stuff.

    You made the right call.
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    Yep. The Japanese seem to be able to get by without them though. Highest suicide rate by 1st world country. Not to many guns there.
     
  20. Sishir Chang

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    ^ Also a far far lower crime rate.

    As I said though guns don't cause suicides but they make them easier.
     

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