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Anyone else going to buy Guns and Ammo?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Bandwagoner, Nov 8, 2006.

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  1. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

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    An accidental discharge does not mean the trigger is pulled it means the gun had a malfunction causing it to fire.

    In the post you are refernecing I told you what you guys are describing is called a manual safety.

    A gun with a simple manual trigger lock safety is less safe than my gun.

    If you guys really want to know why I will explain it to you. Your understanding of gun safety is really old thinking. Thats not an insult at all and I will bring you up to date with current tech if you would like.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    First issue last. If fighting off an attacker the ability to use one hand to hold them off and the other to grab a weapon is a huge improvement. What if one are is disabled?

    Drag all my guns and spread them out? This just seems like a statement to make me mad or make me sound like a nutjob so I'll avoid.

    Rifle is the better option, or a cabine. Again rifle has high capacity, more powerful ammo, much more accurate, and easier aiming. Shotguns are not very good solutions because of the limited range of ammo that has decent ballistics.

    I'm not sure how you know more than anyone needs to know about guns considering this statement. "I would be curious to know about your three safeties. I'm assuming that there are two hand safeties and you keep the hammer half cocked?" By hand safety I guess you mean manual safety. Leaving a hammer at half-cocked is extremely dangerous especcialy if the gun does not have a firing pin block.

    Again guys I will educate you i just ask you are really trying to learn instead of making blanket statements on a subject you know very little about.
     
  3. vlaurelio

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    the reasons were not clear? I have said numerous time I'd rather you take up whatever you have against me in person instead of continuing to falsely deflamingme thru your sig.. because honestly, thats juvenile and desparate..

    why would I want to kick your ass? you think I even care about you? yeah we had an exchange of posts but that is nothing to me.. then I have noticed that you went out of your way to baselessly and falsely attack me thru your sig for weeks now so I was curious about it.. it was pretty obvious that you have some ill feelings towards me.. I just wanted to give you a chance to take out whatever you have against me but if continuesly falsely deflaming someone thru your sig or using a gun are the only ways you know on how to handle your business then my curiosity has been satisfied..
     
  4. Sishir Chang

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    So if someone is holding a gun with their finger on the trigger and someone bumps into them causing them to pull the trigger what is that called? An "inadvertant discharge"?

    Everything I know regarding what a "safety" is that it prevents the trigger from being accidently pulled.
     
  5. HayesStreet

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    wow. how did I miss this thread so long, lol.

    vlaurelio lives in a washateria and likes to fondle little boys (maybe) so ottoman goes hunting him while packing. :eek:

    this is hall of fame thread material.
     
  6. jgreen91

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    I stocked up this weekend at a gun show. I bought over 2k worth of guns and ammo to add to my collection. I'll try to post pics later.
     
  7. weslinder

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    Glocks (and copies) make their guns without a traditional button or lever safety. My Glock has a "trigger-safety" which makes it hard to set off when dropped or bumped. Read up here. Glocks are designed primarily for law-enforcement, and this design is thought to be a really good compromise between safety and convenience. I personally leave my gun unloaded and locked, but I shoot for sport and not for protection.
     
  8. vlaurelio

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    lives in washateria? hehe.. business envy?

    yeah while hayesstreet drives around drunk like an accident waiting to happen :eek:
     
  9. Deckard

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    Can someone just remove my posts from this thread, if the thread isn't going anywhere? Thanks.



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  10. Ottomaton

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    This is a debate among people who like guns. A large number of gun owners who won't use Glocks will tell you that they are not safe guns except as drawn and ready combat sidearms. Before we go any further, I would not describe myself as a 'Glock person'.

    For the non-Glock person argument, when guns are dropped for whatever reason people naturally tend to grab at them and there is a large number of accidental discharges. Because of the way that the guns cycle, it the guns are almost in cocked single action mode whenever there is a bullet in the chamber so trigger pull doesn't exactly require much force at all. Of course the Glock people would describe it differently.

    Shut your pie-hole beeyatch or I'm comming for you next. :mad:



    :p
     
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  11. thadeus

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    I suggest all of you watch this movie to understand the damaging effects that your dangerous addictions could potentially cause to society:

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    If God truly exists, then this movie should be available at your local Blockbuster or Hollywood Video. Please watch it with an open heart.
     
  12. weslinder

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    Yeah, I understand that. But as a sport-shooter, I don't chamber a shell until I'm ready to shoot. Handling, carrying, and storing a gun safely is far more important than all the mechanical pieces than you can put in place.
     
  13. Sishir Chang

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    It looks like you and vlaurelio can both agree to despise HayesStreet. Now isn't that a good reason to set aside your own conflict?
    Lets build off of this.
    ;)
     
  14. HayesStreet

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    I'm a uniter... :D
     
  15. Bandwagoner

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    Negligent discharge, you don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire.

    The trigger safety that you are so in love with was first used because it was easy to make. It had nothing to stop the firing pin from hitting the bullet.

    For instance in the picture you posted, that is terrible trigger discipline. There is no reason to touch the trigger unless you will fire the gun.
     
  16. lpbman

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    I also never keep a round in the chamber... I heart the Colt 1911 design. Perfection in engineering.
     
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    First, if you are in a house a rifle is not easier to aim, distance isn't required, the ammo isn't more powerful than a 12 gauge slug and if you alternate it with buckshot you have the best home invasion protection in my opinion. But you might have a huge house, so maybe a rifle is better for you...

    By hand safety I am referring to some weapons that have a device on the back of the grip that must be squeezed by the palm of the hand before firing.

    On some weapons, pulling the hammer back halfway prevents the trigger from being pulled which acts as a safety.

    So tell me about your three safeties gun man... Or better yet, tell me what gun you own and I will probably know about it anyway. I'm not a gun man myself, but I know a bit about them.

    Cheers,
    Brock
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    What about the 1911 means you don't have to keep a round in the chamber?
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    Gun man?

    Hey you know what Im not gonna get in a technical argument on which guns are best.

    The half-cocked feature on guns is to prevent them from going off when someone is trying to **** the trigger but it slips before it is able to go to full cocked. It is not a strong position and is not meant to be carried in that manner.

    Please find me any manufacture that reccomends that you carry at half cocked position.

    You know alot less about guns than you think, but I really don't care. You are just trying to make me mad or something.
     
  20. lpbman

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    Not related statements... I need to work on my sentences.
     

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