Even the NBA eventually suspend Kobe for one game just to please angry Rockets fans like you and me, and the fakers do lose Game 3, you and me will have to expect lopsided calls in favor of the fakers in Game 4 to leverage out suspension. Just mark my word!
Their integrity and credibility have already been diminished. I don't think that matters to them anymore.
They should just put Dorsey in for one minute. He doesn't actually have to do anything but he should give off the vibe that he might. They would be wondering what Dorsey is doing in the game in the 1st place. maybe that will make them think we're going to retaliate
Playing basketball all my life, you can throw dirty elbow without looking where ppl are, when they are boxing you out like that...you know where their head is, I am pretty sure Kobe knew what he did
Plus more times than not if you are throwing an elbow above your OWN shoulders most likely it's going to catch someone else above their shoulders to. I can't remember the last time I threw an elbow above my shoulders and hit someone in the nuts. Oh wait I'm not ray allen
I watched it so Ill just add... Mikes thought who should be suspended... Fisher - definitely, Kobe - on the fence. Played Stu's take on Dwight's elbow and clearly states "any deliberate elbow above the shoulders is an automatic suspension." Funny thing is that they called Ron's foul fair since "he was climbing and clawing the back of Kobe and going over the back." Seriously? Thats called boxing out and getting your man under the basket so he cant get a rebound. Another thing I noticed and thought was hilarious was that there was a highlight of the Rox/Lakers game on one of the breaks... Fisher's dirty play came up and the speaker says "Scola acting a little bit out in L.A. ..." Again, seriously? Scola has flopped in the past, sure but this def. was not. Give me a break. I usually like Mike & Mike but this morning was a joke. The Lakers are desperate.
1) dfish's suspension is proper b/c what he did was CLEARLY intent b/c he saw scola coming and still did what he did. hell, he should be suspended for the series. you don't headbutt a guy like that. 2) kobe will NOT be suspended. he elbowed ron, but his face wasn't in ron's direction as he had his back to ron and both were jockeying for position. and it's typical when you jockey for position, elbows will be thrown. hell, deke would be suspended quite frequently if this was the case. also, if rondo's foul to miller's head didn't get a suspension b/c he had "no intention," kobe will def. not get suspended. a precedent was set w/ rondo.
The thing is.................... this is all psychological ploys by the Lakers and Kobe is very good at it. Yes, he will get a lot of attention for throwing the elbow. And then what will happen is when Artest gets on him in game 3, the refs are going to be watching them close. And Kobe is going to start the flipping flopping routine. Watch it happen. If you saw Kobe being interviewed by Sager last night, Sager asks him about the Rockets team, Kobe wouldn't acknowledge anything about the Rockets, said this is the playoffs. Then Sager asks him about the incident with him and Artest. Kobe says, "Hey this is the playoffs. It is more physical in the playoffs." Nothing about whether he or Ron was right or wrong. No acknowledgement. Sager asked him 3 questions. Every question he asked, Kobe totally ignored his opponent, Artest, the Rockets, etc. That is all psychological stuff, just like him strutting around saying, "He can't guard me." when he was hitting all those shots over Shane.
had it been the regular season yeah a suspension but round 2 of the playoffs? kobe would need to just flat out punch a guy in the face multiple times in front of all the refs and even then it could be double since they would say it was a basketball play kobe was just trying to get into better position to receive the ball he wont get suspended, he should but he wont and the worst thing is? Kobe knows it too so expect more cheap shots like this from him throughout the series without any consequences. if he does something like this in game 3, I am all for sending joey dorsey out there to just straight up flagrant 2 him HARD
I'm with you here. I'd rather he not be suspended. It was a vicious elbow, but I don't think Kobe meant to hit Artest in the throat. To be honest, I don't think he should be suspended, only because the elbow wasn't blatant enough. He should have got a Technical Foul. However, for the upcoming games, the Rockets need to implement the Kobe Rules, and get physical with him like the Pistons did to MJ in 89 and 90. If Kobe can get away with his dirty tricks, that means the Rockets players can also do the same thing right back at him, especially at Toyota Center. The answer is to get even more physical against Bryant IMO.
maybe clutch fans need to hold a demonstration outside of toyota center in protest of the nba's lack of action if need be?
The NBA follows the rule exactly to detail when a player comes just a foot off the bench during an on the court fight. Does the NBA really need to suspend a player when he just walks a few feet from the bench and never actually gets into the fight? No, but they follow the rule as it’s written so there is never any discrepancy. Why wouldn't the NBA suspend a player over an elbow to the neck that is stated in the rule book as a suspendable offence? You’re telling me Amare walking a few feet from the bench a few years against the Spurs is worse than an elbow to the neck?
This is 100% correct. What Rondo did to Hinrich was FAR more egregious than what Kobe did, and Rondo paid NO consequences, so why would Kobe? They will suspend Fisher for game 3, and probably fine Kobe for the elbow, but nothing more than that. Honestly, I kinda don't want them to suspend Kobe. I can already hear the excuses if the Rockets win without Kobe in the game.
Seriously though, if the league doesn't step up and do something about this before the next game, someone on the Lakers could seriously get hurt. I mean, what if we put in Dorsey or someone else in and he just went in and sent Kobe flying fifteen feet in the air and broke something? The league is risking an all out brawl because the Lakers are playing really dirty. I also don't consider that cut on Shane from Sasha Fierce a complete accident. Yeah he was in the act and making it look like it was, but it was still another clear very hard foul with game implications that was not called by the refs. Kobe's dirty play on Shane, on Ron, Sasha's on Shane, Fisher's on Luis....what's next? The refs and NBA are risking serious injuries to these players if they do nothing.
Does anyone have video of Kobe's elbow into Don Ron's throat? Also, any video on the Scola/Fisher incident and the Wafer/Adelman incident? I watched the game at Buffalo Wild Wings with no sound.
