Anybody here who voted for Trump Switching to Biden?

It's his inflated self worth and ego. He wants all the credit and none of the blame. Sorry, that doesn't fly with me. I've met people like that in my life, but none half as narcissistic as Trump. I've met people who were untrustworthy, but certainly wouldn't put my life in their hands. I certainly wouldn't trust any of those types to lead a country, and make decisions and policies that affect human lives.

If I was a soldier with my life on the line abroad, I wouldn't feel safe with a Commander in Chief like Trump. We don't even have the respect we used to from many Western leaders now. It's not just people like me who are disgusted or appalled by his nasty childish remarks, or bullying type responses.

 

Good point Deb. Trump hasn’t started any wars. Forgot that one. He’s brought troops home.

I get it. Some people hear brash talk and get sensitive about it. He said he was going to stand up to the status quo and he’s taken on the heat while dishing it out. Hell, he was impeached by a house member in the first month...lol. And then ...we’ll you know the hoax.

I hope we all understand that as much as you guys ‘look down’ upon Trump supporters, or in a lot of cases, anti-Dem....We feel the same way. Some days it’s funny. Some days it’s frustrating. But we struggle to understand how you allow yourself to be played by the media and an inconsistent political message. Remember, just 8 months ago you weren’t socialists. Boy, that escalated quickly.....didn’t it?

We all agree the 1% are the folks who should be held responsible for the inequality of wealth, right. But it’s those 1%ers who hate Trump, who control your party and control the MSM message. If you don’t see that I don’t know what else to say. It’s plain as day if you really want to be honest.

 

I'll give Trump credit for not starting wars even if it means to tuck tail and run. He's not winning any points by treating his allies like garbage and throwing them under the bus in public while begging for concessions in private. It's plain odd for all those former Republican national security and defense experts to endorse Biden.

Maybe it's just me, but weakening the State Department doesn't serve any American's interest especially when there's agreement from both sides that our military spending is spiralling out of control despite not taking great care of our soldiers, present and past.

Do we really want a husk of a military juggernaut besieged on all sides without a friend in sight? That sounds like the centerpiece of Trump's FU, America First policy.

ICYMI, there was the Bernie wing 4 years ago who, like a growing number of younger Americans, have warmed to socialism in terms of public service umbrellas Europe has enjoyed for decades.

This has only grown as wealth inequality is becoming worse and deeper since 08, and will continue to grow as people wait for unemployment checks due to covid while the stock market soars from the Fed's unlimited blank checks.

The media doesn't fund the Fed, does it?

So maybe the Fed is doing it's job keeping it all afloat, but what about Congress or the Executive? They're enabling the profiteering and even considering a capital gains waiver, that helps no one looking to pay their rent or feeding their families.

The Media sure loves hyping up the lazy poor.

 

The Executive branch can’t hand out checks. Need congress for that. Pelosi won’t come back to DC for stimulus but she’ll call a bullish!t hearing for a Postmaster who’s only been there for 70 days. Priorities huh.

She’s purposely dragging out the suffering because of the election. I think even you guys know that, though I don’t expect you to admit it.

 

Maybe you'd have a point if Dems ran the Senate.

The fact that Trump negotiates with Pelosi sans Turtle tells you how far gone and inept your party has become when it comes to straight up governing and making responsible decisions.

All those fat turds care about is tax breaks and more military spending. Throw in an abortion nod here and there and call it a day.

 

I haven't follow the 2nd covid bill that closely. But I know that the house passed a bill back in May. That's 3 months ago. And that the Senate has not passed any bill and have left until Sept. McConnel tried but didn't get the votes - opposed by his own party, while the WH has demanded payroll tax cut that both parties oppose. The Senate needs to get one passed first that is satisfactory to the WH. They can't even do that, so what's the point of the House coming back - just to wait for the Senate to do it's job?

Your criticism is misplaced - the House has already done it's job (to be fair, it's not going to pass the Senate) while the Senate hasn't. The ball is in the Senate and WH's court.

Beside that, if Pelosi wanted to drag out the suffering, she wouldn't have the House passed a overly generous bill (3T) while the Senate and the WH want a much lower spending bill (slimed down to 1T wasn't even slim enough).

 

I really don't get this. You have a known and admitted con man, he had to admit that the Trump Foundation was defrauding charities for veterans and shut it down while he was a President. The man who hawked vodka even though he doesn't drink yet it's Democrats getting played.

I don't look down upon all Trump supporters. I know many personally and the one's I know are good people who. I can understand the frustration with status quo politics and their are legitimate grievances. That said it does boggle my mind that the continue argument is that it's the other side that are the ones being conned. Especially this argument that it's the 1% when Trump has always been wealthy and he himself campaigned on the idea that he is a wealthy man..

 

To follow up on the posts by Txtony and Invisible Fan. I agree the Executive can't just sign checks but the President does wield an enormous Bully Pulpit and has significant capital. What we've seen though is rather than use that Bully Pulpit or political capital to pressure both houses of Congress to do something the Administration spends a lot of time on happy talk downplaying the severity of the situation. The President himself spends more time insulting people on Twitter and calling for boycotts of companies that bother him than he does addressing this situation.

 

This is a chilling story!!

 

Trump 'reanimated me to vote'



Ellesia Blaque, an English professor at Kutztown University, brought up health care: Blaque was born with sarcoidosis and said she'll die without the medication covered by her expensive insurance plan. Blaque asked what he is doing to protect people like her, and he dodged.



"He didn't answer my question," Blaque said.



She said she left the event fuming -- but resolved to do something about it. Going into the town hall, she said, she was "on the fence" about voting at all in 2020. That's why she qualified as an uncommitted voter by ABC's standard. But now, she said, "I'm going to vote for Biden." Trump "reanimated me to vote."



>> To be sure, other questioners may have been thrilled by the president's answers. These are the three participants who replied to me on deadline.

 

My mom is oldest of four siblings. The second oldest, my uncle, texted among the four a picture of his yard; I think it was just some deal where he wanted to show the yard, I'll show you mine, now you share me yours. What stood out was the big TRUMP 2020 sign on his fence (he lives near Magnolia, you get the idea).

My mom and two aunts flipped out: how can you vote for Trump? It was my aunt Denise in that response who surprised me the most. She and her husband are staunch lifelong Republicans. I honestly thought voting Republican was so stamped into their DNA that this would be no different. But apparently they can't stand Trump.

So there is hope out there. Even if we live in Texas and our vote will likely only net us jury duty, we have to vote for Biden.

 

I saw some of that Town Hall and more of the same. The parts that really bothered me were when he is now claiming he didn't just downplay the virus but actually did more. This is the same man who was telling people it was no worse than the flu and that it would magically disappear publicly when privately he knew that wasn't the case. Meanwhile he keeps on talking about his travel ban on the PRC as though that was the end all and be all, even though of course it was a very porous ban. At the sametime as his administration wasn't just working with the States but undermining their responses by seizing needed equipment.

The other part that really bothered me was to the voter who was crying talking about her Dominican mother dying of cancer. He said he was going to try to bring immigrants like her and her mother to the country but under his administration before even COVID-19 happened LEGAL IMMIGRATION HAD BEEN CUT IN HALF. Among the programs cut was family immigration which was the program that would've allowed that mother to come. A program that I will note Melania Trump used to get her parents into this country.

 

If I was Biden in any debate I would just continue to ask him who actually is saying this when he goes on about many people are saying or people have said, Trump is gonna pull that out at least 5 times on multiple topics and i would just drill down on making him explain who these people are and why does he take them seriously?

Just like the moderator did with the mask questions.

It's amazing how unprepared he is for stuff like this but he and his handlers keep thinking these are great ideas.

Even Fox is starting to push back.

 

in my life I've voted for Republicans, Democrats and Libertarians.
I voted for Jill Stein Green Party in 2000. (Didn't like Clinton, realized what an idiot Trump and Johnson were, so it was green for me as a voice of dissent)

I'll be voting for Biden to save our country. A vote for Trump is a vote against our Democracy.

 

I didn't watch it. I honestly can't even listen to anything Trump says. All he does is lie or toot his horn and act like he is great. His arrogance and incompetence is really hard for me to stomach. He just sounds so stupid and uneducated.

 

Most people in first world nations really do not want to move. I have met some younger people that want to move to the USA, they tend to be very highly ambitious and strong capitalists.

There are some Europeans that are hostile towards the USA because of US news coverage and Bush and Trump. It is odd that you mentioned Australians, as they, along with Israeli's are the group I have seen that is the most interested in going to the USA.

I agree it is primarily Chinese I meet that want to come to the USA, from first world Asian countries.

I can understand why someone would be concerned.

The take away I get is that some people in the USA seem to think that only the wealthy, educated and successful from strong first world countries should be allowed into the USA. That has NEVER been the case. The USA has always attracted people from places where it wasn't all that good.... and it is getting lost in what it means to be an American.

 

What's plain as day is that Trump is a compulsive liar. You can't dispute that.