I must say . . . . I feel the REFS have more say in the game than ever before. I feel the games are more plastic than ever The game has turned into Theater . .. flopping and jumping into players without even trying to hit the shot, just throw it in that direction. Rocket River
ONE MORE THING Stern allowed tampering to make the big three then closed the loophole [REMEMBER this was Riley's second attempt at tampering but Stern blocked the first one to continue the Bull's Dominance (Juwan Howard rebuked trade)] He allowed this one to have the new face of the league become a winner Rocket River
So what if it was all a GM's idea...plus is that the point of free agency...picking your own destinations... What will make you miserable people happy...? If a guy leaves a small market or good team...or if he holds for more money...he's greedy. If he voluntarily wants to be on a mediocre team where can be sole star and take all shots... he's selfish. If he wants to leave his current team for a contender or to join other superstars... he's a cowardly ring chaser.
Hmmm... Are you having a nervous breakdown? you've been berating posters constantly. I'll take you seriously and respond once you get your attitude in check and not put words in my mouth..... Because you can't control your emotions.
Because, you sound ridiculous trying discredit a team that had to go out win, like every other team. Besides, if it's a sham, a rigged game filled with selfish, colluding...why watch an NBA game, if it's predetermined...it sounds stupid and crazy for a bunch people to be complaining about a game, because the team they dislike and hate how it was formed. It wasn't against the rules...and if it were the Rockets...your mouths would be completely closed. I'm not putting any words in your mouth or any constantly whining posters. It sounds like noise from a bunch of bitter old men...little kids. Sorry, Lebron and Bosh did not want play in your cities. Oh well, I will sit in sorrow, because Mr. Downbytheriver will ignore my posts...I'll just collude with other posters making pointless coversations...
^^?? It seems like you're trying to make a point but don't get the complexity of the situation. To summarize, for those of us that play sports, its embarrassing to see a man with so much natural talent not to have an alpha mentality. This isn't work, it's sports. Sportsmanship earns you respect. Do not try to compare it to the politics of your work. To your college class. It is a different sense of responsibility with the talent of wade, lebron bosh compared to peers and the many options they had. Given those circumstances, the whole we pulled a fast one on you guys, not one, not two , not three speech shows exactly what they were going for re: integrity. now you gotta back it up with title trophies. That's all the "MISERABLE PEOPLE" in this thread are saying. Cornering the market, monopoly in a subsidized situation while oppressing the have nots... That is frowned upon by anyone who understands big picture. But if you just want to be a fan of a winner, a dynasty, and feel important, then ita easy to overlook CIRCUMSTANCE.
Whatever...whatever...whatever... Lebron is 4x MVP who was not stupid enough to let his career languished in incompetent Cleveland. Talent trumps these primitive tribal order ideals that you have...how does such player carry a 15 win team to 60 win seasons. Alpha mentality...that sure worked for Karl Malone...Gary Payton in Seattle...Reggie Miller
What he did to Cleveland? He left Cleveland in free agency. Creating a super team? What like the Lakers (tried to do)? What like the Celtics? How come the Lakers didn't get to the finals with Kobe, Howard, and Nash? How come the Celtics didn't win more than one title with Allen, Garnett, and Pierce? How come the Nets aren't blowing teams out with Williams, Johnson, Pierce, and Garnett? We're about to assemble a superteam, so shut the **** up.
You prefer T-Mac and Carter over LeBron? Get out. You're talking about the two biggest losers in this past decade who haven't accomplished a damn thing. You want to talk about someone with all flash and no fire? Those two. Ringless cousins. I loved watching them play, but their careers are huge failures and they were pretty selfish for the majority of their careers. LeBron is selfless (I'm talking about on-court play, conjure your own opinions about his personality and personal life) and it shows in his game. Yeah, he no longer has the 50 point unstoppable games as a Miami Heat, because he doesn't need to be that player. He plays for the win, not for the stats. Your argument would make more sense if you said something about preferring Kobe to LeBron. You're going to tell me you despise LeBron's perceived lack of killer mentality, and then talk about how impressed you are about T-MAC? LOL!!!!
very misguided to dislike lebron because he left cleavland, if anything its only the MANNER in which he left cleavland. I'd jump ship too if I got a chance to play with Wade and Bosh, rather thank having Mo freaking Williams as your sidekick.
Misnomer - He actually forced a trade. He announced his intentions of basically they trade him or he walks leaving them no leverage to even negotiate with Miami In fact he made sure they could not include DWADE in their demands. http://www.sbnation.com/2010/7/8/1559490/lebron-james-decision-nba-free-agency-heat-cavaliers-espn similarly Bosh did the same Collusion - Riles did it before . .got slapped on the wrist did it this time by having DWade as his agent rather than directly aka. . . he found a loophole. Kobe - broken howard = il used Nash = ancient Garnett/Peirce/Allen = old old old plus creation of said super team not to mention THE WEST Pierce Garnet = ANCIENT Williams [broken wheels] and Johnson are not top 10 in the league naaa... Rocket River
but you are terrible at sports and have never even been considered to play anything for a team, let alone a guy who has been goat from childhood like Lebron. different talent, different responsibility. -"with great power, comes great responsibility". that's what i'm saying, guys like you and plutoblue can't compare YOURSELVES to lebron. it makes for discussion in the media, but not realistic. so let's get rid off the sham and consolidate the league, have 8 teams with the best players, then collusion won't be a problem and anyone can win. Lebron could have gone anywhere BUT Miami, with the whole wade bosh scenario, and it would have been fine. I expected him in Chicago (Rose) or NYC. But he went that route, did the whole not 1 not 2 not 3 speech, and people are going to expect titles. anything less is absolute failure.
