Any PS3 Owners Planning on Getting (or Already Have) Warhawk?

Storm Surge · Sep 3, 2007

i might pick this up but imma wait until CoD 4 and UT3 comes out to make my decision.

WhoMikeJames · Sep 3, 2007

I can't wait till the next update. They need to fix al ot of things

Ranking Glitch (I'm a Wingman with 2700 points)
Stats Not Updating
Freezing (All the time)
The amount of blue ranked servers is too little
The Joining Game Problem (takes me 15 minutes to join a game)

Poloshirtbandit · Sep 3, 2007

sccdct34 said:

the only PS3 game i have right now is the show. Which is a great game btw.
I was thinking of picking this up as well pretty soon. My PSN is Phenom01 if anyone wants to add me.
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Yeah, I have The Show. As well as Rainbow Six Vegas and NBA 2k7. The Show is the only game I play regularly, I love it.

RC Cola · Sep 3, 2007

I got the game last night, although I didn't really get much of a chance to play it until today (and I didn't play an online game until 30 minutes ago or so). So far, I'm really liking this game. I first tried out an offline game so I could play around with the controls and get used to some of the vehicles. The visuals were better than I expected, although the controls will definitely take some getting used to. I wanted to try the motion sensing controls, but I'm just not feeling it right now. I think I would really prefer it if I could adjust to it, but that will take up too much time right now. Wish there were some tutorial missions to help adjust to it...getting flashbacks to the tutorial missions from the old X-Wing games right now (those would be great actually).

I definitely had a lot of fun when I played the game online. I still died a little more than I would have liked (more so in the second match I think, but that was partly because I was experimenting with some of the gameplay mechanics and controls), but that didn't really bother me as much as it did with Resistance. I was stuck playing in a server with Warhawks only, so I probably could have had more fun otherwise. The Warhawk still seems a little too advanced for me right now. I'd probably still be playing right now (and probably the rest of the night), but I need to finish up some homework. I'll probably play some more tomorrow or the next day.

Headset seemed to work fine for me. I could hear other people fine through it, although I don't think I actually said anything with it (still a little "shy" in that regard...besides, it was a DM, so there wasn't really much to say). I tried it with my cellphone and it worked well with it as well (voice quality was good on both ends).

My one complaint right now would probably be that they need some more (SCEA) ranked servers, like WhoMikeJames said. It took me a while to join a game (sometimes said they were full when the menu said it wasn't), although I was being somewhat picky. Guess this might be a good problem to have in a way, but I hope SCEA is quick on putting up some more servers.

KePoW · Sep 3, 2007

it's a great game for what it is, a MP team-based one

as for flying the warhawks, I would just stick to dual analog...unless you really have some reason to fly with the sixaxis controls

as others have said, all they need to do is fix up server reliability and get the stat-tracking up 100%, and it would definitely be a keeper

Brando2101 · Sep 3, 2007

6 axis sucks.

I don't think the game is as deep or fun as Crimson Skies (the plane portion anyway) but it was still a great pickup.

RC, don't try and join games with only 2 spots open. you have to remember, MANY MANY others see the same 2 spots as you so a lot of people try to join at once. I would get into a game with 5 or so openings because they will fill up in no time.

KePoW · Sep 3, 2007

Brando2101 said:

I don't think the game is as deep or fun as Crimson Skies (the plane portion anyway)
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I disagree

but I've never really liked flying in MP-based shooter games anyway, so that's why I like Warhawk a lot better...there is a lot of stuff and fighting you can do on the ground, it's a full-fledged game

Brando2101 · Sep 3, 2007

KePoW said:

I disagree

but I've never really liked flying in MP-based shooter games anyway, so that's why I like Warhawk a lot better...there is a lot of stuff and fighting you can do on the ground, it's a full-fledged game
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I meant in terms of the flying. The stages in CS were incredible especially the skyscrapper filled Chicago.

RC Cola · Sep 4, 2007

Brando2101 said:

RC, don't try and join games with only 2 spots open. you have to remember, MANY MANY others see the same 2 spots as you so a lot of people try to join at once. I would get into a game with 5 or so openings because they will fill up in no time.
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I didn't really have much of a choice, at least when it came to ranked (DM) games provided by SCEA (think they were only allowing 8 people total anyway actually). The few non-SCEA ranked games may have been a little better, but not by much. Guess I could have gone with a non-ranked game, but I didn't really want to at the time.

Regarding sixaxis controls, it is hard to describe, but I think if I could just adjust to it, I would be better off. When I tested it out, it seemed like I could aim and shoot better, and I think I could react quicker with my Warhawk movements. The problem was that I'm not really accurate with my maneuvers yet, and it will take up too much time to fix that (especially without any tutorial missions to help adjust to the new controls). Only thing I can think of relating this to would be changing your shooting form (or maybe your batting stance, but I never really played much of baseball).

gfab-babyboi · Sep 4, 2007

*Add me if you have Madden08 or Resistance or WarHawk*

darapture187

Man the game is great to me, I guess because I am pretty good at shooting games, I think it toke me maybe 3-4 games to fix the settings to my liking.. I won 2 out my next 6 games...I love the jungle level/islands.

Now as far as flying...I just got the hang of it last night...I can now fly where I want, but the locking system is still causing me a little trouble with the rocket launcher and the WarHawk, I swear I locked 3 missles on this guy, and 2 of them Hit him and he still didnt die, pissed me off, cuz someone shot him and got the kill...oh well....

Zones are really fun to....I like how you have to stand there 3-5 seconds to get the zone neutral and then another 3-5 seonds to turn it your teams color. Same with Capture the Flag, you have to stand near the flag for about 3-5 seconds before it returns to your base. It sucks you cant fly with the flag though...you can only run, drive tank or drive the jeep.....

As far as with Madden08, the pause glitch is out, and sore losers are using it, I have been hit with it 4 times now, and it almost makes me want to take the game back.

Ziggy · Sep 4, 2007

Is there a website that details the weapons pros and cons, buttons, icons, etc?

KePoW · Sep 4, 2007

Ziggy said:

Is there a website that details the weapons pros and cons, buttons, icons, etc?
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do you have the boxed retail version or the download version? if you don't have it, you can get a copy of a PDF manual from:

http://www.us.playstation.com/warhawk/warhawk_manual.zip

oomp · Sep 4, 2007

Thanks for that manual, I needed that!

FYI- PS3 update 1.92 is out. Makes internet browser a bit better, with a few other things.

Poloshirtbandit · Sep 4, 2007

oomp said:

Thanks for that manual, I needed that!

FYI- PS3 update 1.92 is out. Makes internet browser a bit better, with a few other things.
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I noticed that this morning. Is there a complete list of new features? I don't notice anything different.

Poloshirtbandit · Sep 4, 2007

Never mind, found it:

http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates

Brando2101 · Sep 4, 2007

Some news about Film and TV downloads on the PS3. I decided against making a new thread since the article doesn't give a date or layout for the service.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118885177843416106.html

TOKYO -- Two years after taking the helm of Sony Corp., Chief Executive Howard Stringer is quietly preparing a big move to expand the company and challenge rival Apple Inc. in an area that has thus far promised more than it has delivered: video-downloading services.

People familiar with the situation say Mr. Stringer is planning to use Sony's technology-packed PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Portable videogame machines, along with its Bravia high-definition televisions, to develop products and services to let users download television shows and movies, similar to the way they download music and videos using Apple's iTunes store and iPods. A Sony spokesman declined to comment on the company's strategy.
[Howard Stringer]

As Internet connections have become faster, analysts have expected the next big potential market to be in downloading movies and television shows. Some analysts believe it could be significantly larger than the digital music market. Park Associates, a market-research and consulting firm, estimates that annual revenue from Internet video, including ad-based and user-paid services, could exceed $7 billion in the U.S. alone by 2010.

Apple offers video-compatible iPod devices and the iPhone, along with downloadable television shows, music videos and movies for purchase on its iTunes Store. But analysts say there's no clear winner yet and the market is up for grabs.

"The real key is going to be who is providing the best high-definition experience for viewers," says Kurt Scherf, a Park Associates analyst who studied this market. He adds that companies ranging from electronics makers to cable companies and content providers are all experimenting now in search of the best strategy.

Establishing a dominant position in this area is crucial for Sony, whose Walkman music devices lost out to Apple's iPods when Sony failed to launch compelling music-downloading software. The move could also help boost lagging sales of the PS3 and PSP videogame devices. The PS3, in particular, has been a big disappointment even though Sony made a large investment in its development to build a state-of-the-art machine.

Sony, which has spent the last few years restructuring, has already been moving in this direction. Just last week, the company unveiled a Walkman for the U.S. market that for the first time can play movie trailers and music videos in addition to listening to music. In a sign that Sony might have given up at least for now on trying to beat Apple in music, it also said it was phasing out its music download service called Connect and that the latest Walkmans would use Microsoft Corp.'s Windows Media software.

Earlier this year, Sony introduced a module for its U.S. television models that can download Internet content. It will roll out a similar device in Japan this fall that will let consumers download videos from a number of Internet services. Meanwhile, Sony's PlayStation unit last month launched new features for the PS3 and PSP in Europe that let consumers use their game machines to record television shows onto their PS3s and transfer them onto their PSPs.

But it faces huge challenges in this market. For a start, it will be competing with some of the most powerful names in global business. In addition to Apple, Microsoft has also been positioning its competing Xbox 360 device to be used for video downloading. Internet companies, as well as television and movie studios, cable companies and mobile operators, are jockeying for a piece of the action.

Apple's set-top device called Apple TV, which lets users play music and video from their computer-based iTunes library, has not been selling strongly since it went on sale earlier this year, analysts say. Since introducing video on iTunes in October 2005, Apple saw a big increase in video downloads for the first year, but analysts say the number has tapered off recently. In response, an Apple spokeswoman said, "We're the No. 1 video download store."
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Still, industry observers say Sony has one possible advantage in its quest to a major player in the video downloading market: Content companies like movie studios may be wary of the way Apple dominated the digital music market, and may be more encouraged to work with another company, especially one that owns a movie studio of its own and understands their concerns. Last week, a dispute erupted into public view between Apple and one of its biggest suppliers of television shows, General Electric Co.'s NBC Universal, over pricing of television episodes and other issues. As a result, Apple has vowed not to sell NBC programs from the coming season starting this month.

"We've been saying for years that if there's a company that can marry all this emerging content to products that people want, it's Sony that's going to make it happen," says Parks Associates analyst Mr. Scherf.

The foray into video downloading will be a crucial test for Mr. Stringer, who has succeeded in slashing costs at Sony but must now prove he can also find new areas of growth. Since the failure of the Walkman to beat the iPod, Sony has been struggling to come up with a new product that defines the industry standard in innovation.

It is also a test of whether Mr. Stringer has succeeded in taming Sony's fiercely independent corporate culture. In the past, the company has struggled to get its various units to cooperate with each other. An area like video downloading would require extremely close teamwork among the electronics, movie and videogame units.

Mr. Stringer has recently appointed executives with a track record of cooperation. One is Kazuo Hirai, the new head of the PlayStation group, who in June succeeded Ken Kutaragi, the headstrong creator of the PlayStation. Mr. Stringer also expanded the role of an electronics executive, Katsumi Ihara, who Sony officials say understands the importance of integrating compelling software with good hardware.

People familiar with the situation say Mr. Stringer has been laying the groundwork in recent months to shift the company's focus to video downloading. For example, they say he decided to end Sony's unsuccessful efforts to challenge Apple in the music-downloading business in order to focus on the new strategy. In May, Mr. Stringer quietly decided to shut down the unit that was charged with creating a portable music player and online music service. Sony said Thursday that the service would be phased out and the latest Walkmans would use Microsoft's Windows Media software.

The people privy to Sony's plans also say Mr. Stringer, over the protests of some executives, personally enforced a decision to adopt certain digital rights management software that will eventually be used in all of Sony's products. That is an indication of how serious he is about making sure the company's various units come together to make this strategy a success, they say.
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The NBC Apple breakup was huge. I doubt Sony would have such strict regulations on content pricing like Itunes and considering how much money NBC made with Apple, I bet they would jump into bed with this service in a second.

I have no idea what the selection is like on Xbox live but if Sony could make ALL of the content in their subsidiaries available for download it seems like it would be a huge selling point for the system.

Coach AI · Sep 4, 2007

Brando2101 said:

The NBC Apple breakup was huge. I doubt Sony would have such strict regulations on content pricing like Itunes and considering how much money NBC made with Apple, I bet they would jump into bed with this service in a second.
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It also depends on who meant to do what in the NBC/Apple deal. Apple 'strict regulations' kept tv shows at like 2 or 3 bucks. NBC hasn't really said what exactly they want changed, while Apple tries to imply they want to charge more. NBC won't admit to that but it's hard to believe they are upset because they wanted to charge *less* than 2 bucks.

If NBC (and others) want to partner up with PS3 and XBOX and jack up the prices they won't necessarily make a big dent against something like iTunes' grip on the market.

tulexan · Sep 4, 2007

I think it's a great game. Haven't been too successful flying the warhawks yet, but the ground combat is great. A lot of really intense battles where people are coming at you from all angles.

RC Cola · Sep 5, 2007

A bit of an update on a few of the errors people are experiencing:
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=warhawk&thread.id=82116

First off -- I want to let all of you know that, contrary to some of the posts here...the team was not sailing around, enjoying the labor day holiday while you all played and earned medals that were ultimately never awarded to you

We have been pretty quiet recently as we look to determine the root cause of some of the issues that some players are currently experiencing. Some items we have fixes for, some we are still working on -- probably not the exact response that you wanted to hear, but its at least a status update.

The three main issues that we are tracking are:

* Stats and Ranking errors, delayed posting, missing stats.
* "Connection Failed" or otherwise messed-up join game errors.
* Network Drops/Disconnects (we have a fix for these and should be deployed in the next service window)

Our team here at Incognito along with our great support team in San Diego were, and continue to be, diligently working on these issues. I want to reassure everyone that while we *have* been quiet these last few days, it is NOT a sign that we are off on some tropical island somewhere...we are hard at work on the big issues.

I'm not going to spin it and say "oh....we just had soooo many players.....so successful...blah, blah, blah."

That's a bulls&*#$t PR answer. The fact of the matter is that, there were some unforeseen issues that occurred once we went live...plain and simple. From here on out, look for far more frequent updates from us...even if its bad news.

Lastly, while I appreciate everyone's excitement and feedback. I beg of you please don't call my office

My phone number was posted here and in a few other places and while I have had really good conversations with some of you, the team and I need to focus all of our attention on getting you great service...not going though 300 voicemails a day - I do hope you can understand.

I'll post update here as they become available.

And -- Yes this is Dylan from Incognito...I'm not sure why I'm showing up as "Junior"!!! I need to talk to somebody about that
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RC Cola · Sep 7, 2007

I think they fixed (or are trying to fix) the stats issue:
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=warhawk&message.id=92950#M92950

Everyone,

As you all know, we have been diligently working on the stats issue. It totally sucks that your stats aren't posting and we take it very, very seriously.

So...some of you may have already noticed that we are bringing the entire system down right now to deploy a server-side patch for out stats database in an attempt to resolve the errors when games post stats. We have performed very thorough internal testing but, as will be the case with any large online game, the ultimate test is to get a huge player base to smash the hell out of it.

I think it’s fair to say that if this update doesn't resolve the stats issue...you will all let us know!

This update is rolling out RIGHT NOW...servers will be brought off-line, from 4:15pm PDT and will be down until 6:15pm PDT.

Many apologies for this incredibly late notice but we are absolutely committed to making sure you all have great service, and playing Warhawk this weekend with stats fixed has been our #1 priority!!!

I will post again once we have the system back up and running.
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Any of you who were playing when we "pulled the trigger" were probably disconnected -- We had to bring it all down...not just you guys here in the states but ALL our players!

As far as what your stats will be...you will stay at what you have currently. This won't ressurrect stats you lost, but *should* allow you to earn new stats.

You will *NOT* have your stats wiped!!!

This change is to the stats database ONLY...we are still agressively looking at other issues and will update all of you as we have more info.
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Sucks that it seems all stats gained during the week didn't count. I actually had a few nice matches that I somehow won.

The servers just went back online, although I'm not sure if the stats are working 100% yet. I think they're either updating instantly, or they're taking a few minutes to update based on what I read at other forums (too tired to play Warhawk at the moment to test it myself). Hopefully that is the case and they ironed out all the bugs.

Does anyone have some good tips that seem to work well? I'm doing OK (or playing really bad players at times), but I'd like to do better (possibly by using better tactics). I was thinking about experimenting more with mines, although I need to figure out where to stick them (probably on Warhawks or other vehicles...need to learn the maps a little better to find out good areas to hide them too). I also read that the sniper rifle can take out a Warhawk if you aim for the cockpit. Might try that in one of my next matches, whenever that is. Eventually, I should probably try something other than a deathmatch.

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