Anwar al-Awlaki is dead

You do? According to the Constitution? Or your particular moral code? Should we throw out the Constitution? What constitutes, exactly a terrorist? Do we have a definition of "terrorist" that is legally defined in this country?

Does Obama decide if someone is a terrorist? The media? Leon Panneta? What if there is division over whether someone is a terrorist or not, do they still forfeit the right to a trial?

 

You take up arms against this country, you have declared war and are an ememy, if he wanted a trial he could have turned himself in....

The world is a better place today without this terd in it.

DD

 

No one is keeping score, there are no teams, and every American citizen has the right to a fair trial.

 

Still doesn't mean he "forfeits" his right to a trial if he had been captured or turned himself in.

 

Nope, he would have gotten one if he was captured or turned himself in, glad we saved all that $$$$ and just killed him.

DD

 

Who cares about his rights? Terrorists don't get rights.

 

American principles: ur doin it wrong

 

Miscarriage of justice.

 

Sad day for the American legal system. Tragically, we've so accepted the suspension of individual rights and liberties in the face of terrorism that we no longer look at those rights as holding any value.

Glenn Greenwald's been outspoken on this issue for some time, and it comes as no surprise that he's already written commentary on the assassination. Really a worthwhile read:

 

The MF is dead. Now give me someone else to shoot at!

 

The moment you decide to kill people intentionally you lose all rights. How can you defend terrorists? Mass murderers? Serial killers?
Aiding and supporting terrorism makes you as much of a terrorist as anyone else.

 

Never conclusively linked to Al Queda. Certainly not in it's leadership.

A former invitee of the Pentagon as a source for moderate islam, who specifically denounced terrorism and desired further education for muslim men and women, who changed his tones post the invasion of Iraq. He was killed primarily for his rhetoric. For "free speech".

Yay America?

 

Uh, no, you don't.

Had he be captured or turned himself in, you don't just put a freaking bullet in his head without a trial.

What kind of country do you think we live in?

 

You're right. He should get a free pass for coordinating attacks against American people. Everyone deserves a second chance right?

 

I don't see how the fact that he's an american citizen should have any relevance here since he's not in custody or even in the U.S. - if you think the Bin Laden raid was legal, then so was this.

Look, when Bush arrested Padilla at the airport and said he was a soldier on the battlefield and began using sensory deprivation and other torture techniques, that's kind of laughable.

Contrast this with Awlaki, who is actually an armed soldier on an actual battlefield fighting in Yemen's low grade civil war - I just don't see how we bring up the 5th amendment then.

 

It'll all lead to the same result. "Not innocent until proven guily." That doesn't work in practice, assumptions will be formed prior to the trial and it'll all be the same result until there is undeniable evidence to defend him.

Besides, this country tortures its terrorists anyway. When you capture a man that killed or attempted to kill and attack American people, its hard not to torture and kill him. You can say differently, but when your family members or friends are killed by terrorists, you're going to want absolute vengeance.

 

That's not what I said at all. But I'm getting used to expecting it from certain elements in this forum.

 

I think Anwar would endorse this position, only from the other side.

Checkmate.

 

This is war. He had it coming.