Anti Mosque Rally shows the true racist colors of these idiots

If acting under Christian directives or Biblical inspiration, then yes, absolutely.

Although im not sure what part of the bible justifies killing abortion docs, but i kinda doubt they read a passage that says "love thy neighbor" and interpret that to mean "bomb thy baby killer".

Its not like a case of somebody reading Catcher In The Rye and shooting John Lennon. This is somebody getting fairly clear, or at the very least, dangerously ambiguos directives from religious sources and carrying them out.

 

This example gets brought up over and over and over again to relativize islamist terror. Yes, as a motive of misguided people who take their beliefs to an irrational extreme, it is involved, just like with Islamist terrorists. Both the abortion doctor killers and the islamist terrorists are crazy-ass idiots, no doubt. This is as far as the parallel goes.

The difference is in scale, both in terms of the number of perpetrators and in terms of how deeply rooted within the religion itself their misguided, crazy beliefs are.

Same with the conflict in Northern Ireland. More people are killed in the name of Islam every three months than were in the whole 36 years of the conflict in Northern Ireland.

Also, with regard to people like McVeigh and these crazy abortion doctor killers, these people do not overtly seek to mobilize the whole of Christianity in their support, and they do not spend intellectual capital justifying their actions to the wider Christian audience. That is another critical difference to islamic terrorism. There is very little support from the mainstream for the abortion killers. Unfortunately, while the mainstream was against it, the support for islamist terror is more widespread among islamic communities worldwide (not to mention that even "moderate" Muslims have practices regarding treatment of women, homosexuals and standards of tolerance (or the lack thereof) that I find unacceptable).

 

But there wasn't any resentment when the Park51 plans were announced in 2009, or when the property was purchased in the same year. The entire furor over the mosque has been a recent fabrication by politicians and talking heads looking to use this as a wedge issue, and they have no problem using the people who died on 9/11 as a prop to advance their agenda.

I know that your reasons for opposing the mosque are far different than Palin's or Beck's, but at least recognize that we're cynical about the mainstream opposition because it's been purely fabricated for political gain.

 

Sorry......don't follow. It is 2am here and I am pressing.......fill a brother in.

 

two americas.

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No doubt the whole distance argument is kind of silly. It's a super slippery slope. If somebody who owned the WTC wanted to put a mosque up, he'd be perfectly justified to do so. But doing so would probably not be the smartest thing ever. Obviously the closer it is to the WTC, the more people will be butt-hurt over it, to think that isn't a natural or justified reaction is also kind of silly though, too.

I'm not really talking about the victims or their families. Hell, I've never even been to New York and it pisses me off. Being a family member of a victim, or living in Manhattan, or NYC, or the greater NorthEast, are not prerequisites to having an opinion on this matter. Just like when a crime is committed, we don't let the victims or their families or victims of similar crimes get together and decide the proper recourse, we as a society decide that. I know that being sensitive to other people's feelings on this issue is really what the hangup is, and it comes with its own set of problems. Appeasement is a slippery slope; there will be good and bad consequences to both building the mosque and abandoning it. Question is, which set of consequences are the builders more willing to live with?

 

Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots

 

Was this picture also taken in New York?

 

Oh I recognize it. Hell, it's embarrassing to me to be on the same side of an issue as basso.

And yeah, the outrage is mostly a product of media and politics... but what isn't? Even if the outrage is phony and fluffed up, they can still have a good point... in other words "they're right, for the wrong reasons."

 

are you suggesting I'm incapable of feeling outrage over something that's outrageous unless someone on foxnews tells me to feel that way?

 

Nah, I'm just suggesting that 98% of the time you're totally wrong. And the other 2% are usually coincidence.

 

I answered that question in a previous post.

But if you want a picture taken in New York:



In the name of Islam.

 

Quick, someone post a picture or story of an atrocity that was "in the name of Jesus"!

You disgust me, by the way.

 

Wouldn't be hard to find one...

How is stating fact disgusting?

 

Thanks. Why don't you do it yourself?

It is a fact that they claimed to do it in the name of Islam.

Whether that is an obvious abuse of the name of their religion is another question.

 

in the name of Germany.

 

Yes, that was horrible. Difference being that fortunately, these days which are the darkest days of our country's history are over, while islamist terror seems to be on the rise around the world rather than in decline.

 

which islamic terror act has surpassed 9/11?

 

So Germany was the inspiration/motivation for the holocaust?

 

Is that your argument? Seriously? Are you trying to make an argument in favor of Islamists based on the fact that later single attacks did not kill more people than 9/11?

If you want to keep track of ongoing terrorist murders in the name of Islam, you can check here (note that I do not endorse everything that is written on that site):

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/