Anti Mosque Rally shows the true racist colors of these idiots

Germans weren't expected to be ashamed of their lineage or their citizenship. You didn't have the rest of the world profiling every German, You didnt have hate mongerers stopping Germans from building buildings in the rest of the World (And labeling all things German as Nazi mobilization camps)... You simply let the Germans figure it out themselves.

It is quite the opposite when it comes to Islam and Muslims. Its almost as if Western Society wants Muslims to distance themselves from any ounce of "Islam" in them. Orthodox = Islamist, Devout = Terrorist. The Media, the uneducated have painted all of the Muslims with a broad brush.

The moderate, peaceful, every day American/Western Muslim are finding it hard to differentiate between themselves and someone who is crosssing over the line to radicalism, because on a daily basis they are targeted, accused, rejected, and humiliated for their peaceful beliefs...

 

Actually, Germans were and are ashamed of that period of their history. And it took time for Germany to regain the trust of the rest of the world, and to be accepted again as a respected member of the united nations. Germany was only admitted again in 1973. Germany has paid and is still paying reparations to Israel. There have been reservations against and restrictions on Germans in the rest of the world long after the second world war was over, and deservedly so. English newspapers (and not only they) still speak of Germans as "tanks", etc.

It takes time and effort to rebuild respect.

So before you go on with your self-pitying rant, rather than whining and portraying yourself as a victim, perhaps you should wonder how you can work on improving the perception of Muslims in the world...because Muslims were the ones who created the perception as it is now.

 

In the interest of historical accuracy there was prejudice both legal and cultural towards Germans during WWI and WWII in the US. German immigrants and Americans of German dissent were profiled and villified. Around WWI many German immigrants changed their names to appear less German. Also while many more Japanese-Americans were interned German and Italian Americans to a lesser extent were also interned.

 

Maybe you shouldnt tell me what I need to do. I am perfectly fine with the way I practice my religion and the perception my Islam has in the world. Maybe you should quit being so judgemental, and intolerant. Maybe you should work towards taking some ethnic/religious sensitivity training. Maybe you didn't learn much from the effort of the Germans of past to shed the label of being racist, judgemental, and hateful. Maybe you shouldnt relive the same past as your ancestors.

 

Uhh, I wasn't aware it was possible for someone else to create your own perception. Inception is real, maybe?!?!

 

Was it as bad as it was for the Japanese? As bad as it was for the Muslims? Germans had the luxury of changing their names and assimilating in society. We live in an age when brown skin singles you out. A beard and the way you dress make you targets.

 

So you don't think that the way American tourists behave abroad influences the perception of Americans (including you) in the countries these tourists visit (even if you have never been there)? You do not think that the decisions of any US government have an impact on how Americans are perceived in other countries, and that that perception will include you, even if you have never visited any of these countries yet?

Thus, others "create" the perception of you, no?

 

More self-pity.

 

yup give him the gas chamber

 

Very good point. And that example can go on and on..
perception of teenagers on skateboards = trouble makers..
perception of asian students = studious nerds and good at math

Heck if I go to the local courts and play a pickup game the perception of everyone when a black guy shows up is that he can ball. But of course sometimes perceptions can be wrong since sometimes they just plain suck

So unfortunately yes people will have perceptions of others based on their physical attributes but sadly those perceptions can be wrong.

 

Welcome to every religion/sect/philosophy/political-ideology. Acting like this is some special attribute unique to Islam is nonsensical.

I'm glad you are having these sort of thoughts. It's important to think of all the complexity and deviations from some of the more trite blanket statements you have made earlier in this thread.

 

Your Perception = Stereotyping.

 

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Very convincing video lol.

 

Discrimination against Germans during WWI and WWII wasn't as bad as towards the Japanese in WWII but that doesn't mean it didn't exist or wasn't wide spread. Compared to the situations of Muslims today it was probably worse. As bad as things are right now. A lot of that has to do with that our culture has evolved overall so in some sense we can't compare discrimination in 1916 with now.

There is probably a lot to the fact that Germans were still Europeans and could blend in why Japanese could not that spared them from getting comparable treatment to the Japanese but I would still hesitate to you use that as defense in regard to the discrimination Germans faced.

 

Just to add I am not bringing up past US discrimination towards Germans as a justification for anything happening now. If anything this shows that we still grapple with the prejudice when faced with a wartime situation.

It was wrong then to presume that German-Americans were by nature of their ethnicity or language violent and hostile as much as it is to think of Muslims now.

 

It's bull****.

You get away with calling me dumb once.

I do it on purpose and get neg repped.

If it's fly one time, it's fly every time.

Whoever mods this forum is doing a very bad job.

 

I think it's based on reports. Obviously, ATW reports people because he is a pansy (as is anyone that reports someone because they got called a name on the Internet).

And yes, you should report me for this post.

 

Nope. You always create your own perceptions. The actions of some can influence your perception, but they do not create them. This is one of the reasons why you and I probably have differing views of Islam. I give less credence to the terrorists that do their deeds in the name of Islam than you do and blame the religion less than you appear to. Thus, my perception of Islam is undoubtedly more favorable than yours, despite seeing the same events as you have.

It's the difference between influencing and actually forming one's perception. I'm sure folks from other countries sit back and think that all Americans are like those douchebag tourists that were really rude and seld-entitled. I'm also sure that other folks from that same country that saw the same douchebag tourists think that those tourists are just douchebags and don't represent the entire country. Both see the same douchebags yet formed a different perception of Americans because the groups of people, get this, think differently.

 

Obviously, individuals and groups think differently. But, get this, there is such a thing as an average perception that can, rightly or not, include you, and for which you bear no individual responsibility, but it can still affect you. And the best way for you to deal with that - if it is an undeservedly negative perception - is to behave in a way that proves that perception wrong, and thereby contributes to changing it. Get this!

 

Wow. The mods are pretty tolerant considering you have not been banned yet. You're immature, just stop posting. Who the hell calls someone out on a forum and invites them to a physical fight just because of a disagreement?