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Anti-Gay Pastor Allegedly Propositions Male Officer

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MR. MEOWGI, Jan 12, 2006.

  1. hotballa

    hotballa Contributing Member

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    rhad,

    Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
     
  2. rhadamanthus

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    Adultery is very different from consensual sex between two non-married people.

    EDIT: I am well aware of the adultery restrictions - try finding places that forbid premarital sex or even polygamy.
     
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  3. Master Baiter

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    Not believing the book of Genesis literally doesn't shake my faith because the idea of there not being a power higher than me doesn't make sense. My belief in Christianity/Jesus isn't shaken because a faith based salvation makes more sense to me than a works based salvation.

    I've said before that I do not think that not taking some stories of the Bible literally diminishes God's greatness or the ideas that He is/was trying to convey. I also do not think that it makes the Bible any less perfect. If anything, I believe that it makes the Bible more perfect because stories/ideas that do not make sense have more meaning.
     
  4. rocketstrike

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    I understand what you're saying-I need to research and think about my response. Peace
     
  5. VooDooPope

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    How are animals alive different than we are? They are created through intercourse (fertilization), born to their mother, fed as an infant, and then reach physical maturity to repeat the process then die.

    The cycle of life for plants is much the same.
     
  6. rimrocker

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    Don't tell Audrey she's not alive...

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  7. thadeus

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    Wait a minute...does it have to be your own marriage? Because I know some chicks who are married and....well, you know.
     
  8. hotballa

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    LOL. I need to be more specific
     
  9. rocketstrike

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    plants different from humans and animals
     
  10. VooDooPope

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    Yes but their life cycle is the same. That is the point you are missing.

    The live and then die. Some die of disease.

    What did the plants do to deserve disease and death? Shouldn't these pure creations of god not have to suffer his wrath and the horror of death. And through it all without the promise of eternal happiness in heaven?

    AND WHAT ABOUT THE ANIMALS? what did they do?

    What did my poor sinless dog to do have to suffer the result of sin, that was cancer, that robbed him of his life?
     
  11. Master Baiter

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    My girlfriends cat ****s by the front door almost every day so sometimes I would be ok with God killing it.
     
  12. OmegaSupreme

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    death to all gays.
     
  13. rocketstrike

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    in all honestly i can't answer...we're not told everything
     
  14. rocketstrike

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    not that I don't want to answer, but that I don't know
     
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    Perhaps you should let Jonas Salk know. He's been using vaccenes all these years to prevent polio. Clearly he needs to change tactics.

    Also the Harris County medical examiner's office might like to know that they need to change their records to reflect that the cause of death for everyone in the last 150+ years should read sin.

    As a Christian, I disagree with your statement wholeheartedly.

    How can you possibly believe your above statement when every moment of your modern life is made possible by ideas and discoveries which prove otherwise? You are like an athiest who dies and goes to heven and still refuses to believe in God.

    The psychological concept of displacement comes into play. People who are having emotionally troubling internal conflicts redirect their inner strugle somewhere else. In this case it is redirected to the congregation.

    There is a resonable amount of evidence which indicates morphological brain structures are different when people are homosexual -- it is wired in. Conversely, someone with a traditionally Baptist viewpoint would find such thoughts to be repulsive. Because these two viewpoints are so extreme the conflict is deflected outward to avoid internal pain and discord.

    The guy really should be pitied more than anything else. I can appreciate that some people first view him as hypocritical. That was the first thought that popped into my mind.

    But if you really think about it he was probably like an alcoholic trying to quit drinking but unable to stop, feeling massive amounts of guilt and shame every time he gave in to a primal desire that fundamentally conflicted with everything he believed and had dedicated his life to. His disproportionate (in my view) condemnation of homosexuality relative to it's importance in the Bible is like a former junkie who becomes an draconian anti-drug crusader. It should be understood in context of the individual's own life.
     
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    I'm not sure what you're trying to say. We can fight off disease and thats great. But some other ailment kills us. I believe disease came after the fall as a result our rebellion against God.
     
  17. JuanValdez

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    lol..
     
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    100% agreed. It's ludicrous that a state would ban trying to have consensual sexual relations with another adult.
     
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    I'm a Christian but I have fundamental differences with how you see God.

    If all disease is coming from man's original sin, how does that fit in with God as loving, and God as just?

    Is it loving that a 2 week old baby dies because of something that happened thousands and thousands of years ago? Does that fit in with a God that is loving and forgiving, and "God is Love" "Those that know God know love"?

    Is it Just? If God is just, is that two week old baby getting what it deserves? Is that justice? Is it justice that an infant or toddler dies and gets disease because of what is supposed to have happened thousands and thousands of years ago?

    Those toddlers and infants aren't rebelling against anyone. Yet they are dying, and suffering. I can't see that as either loving or just.

    And if there is a God that does treat infants and toddlers like that, why on earth would worship that God, aspire to be like that God, or spread that God's ideals to anyone else?

    I would personally hate that God, and want to do everything I could to seperate myself from that God.
     
  20. VooDooPope

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    Excellent Post.
     

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