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Anti-Gay Pastor Allegedly Propositions Male Officer

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MR. MEOWGI, Jan 12, 2006.

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Please understand that I need God's grace as much as anyone else because I do things I'm not proud of and I need to change my ways.

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rhadamanthus said:

I'm ok with that. I mean, I disagree, but at least you are honest.
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That's fine.

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rocketstrike said:

Or it's a result of sin. (I'm not trying to be a biggot here). Death is a result of sin. Disease is a result of sin.
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whatever you say pat roberston

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And I guess me being left handed is a choice and a sin too.

#24 MR. MEOWGI, Jan 12, 2006
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jo mama said:

whatever you say pat roberston
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Why do say that?

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MR. MEOWGI said:

And I guess me being left handed is a choice and a sin too.
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I'm sorry I don't understand.

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rocketstrike said:

I'm sorry I don't understand.
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Im saying I would think god made my left-handedness just like he made other peoples gayness.

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rocketstrike said:

Or it's a result of sin. (I'm not trying to be a biggot here). Death is a result of sin. Disease is a result of sin.
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I have a hard time believing that this is a widely held belief in Christianity.

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rocketstrike said:

Why do say that?
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I'm not better than anyone else. But I believe homosexuality is sin. It doesn't mean that hate or dislike the person.

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rocketstrike said:

Why do say that?
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because you said death and sickness are results of sin and i think that is something that a pat robertson would say.

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rocketstrike said:

Why do say that?
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Well, you did just compare being gay to death and disease.

A better question is: why is sexual repression is such a huge part of being christian?

#31 rhadamanthus, Jan 12, 2006
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Sishir Chang said:

I have a hard time believing that this is a widely held belief in Christianity.
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What is the widely held teaching? This is from the Bible.

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rocketstrike said:

I'm not better than anyone else. But I believe homosexuality is sin. It doesn't mean that hate or dislike the person.
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Can you accept them for who they are without repugnance or conceit?

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rocketstrike said:

I'm not better than anyone else. But I believe homosexuality is sin. It doesn't mean that hate or dislike the person.
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but you do hate and dislike WHO they are.

i guess in the end it all comes down to whether or not you believe that people are born gay or not. im going to guess that you do not believe that people are born gay.

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rhadamanthus said:

Well, you did just compare being gay to death and disease.

A better question is: why is sexual repression is such a huge part of being christian?
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I'm sorry, that wasn't my intention to that. I was just trying to say that sin is all around us, and the reason that all of us die is because of sin. I was just trying to make the point that all of us sin and all of us die. That's all. Not every Christian puts their focus on sexual repression. Some do.

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jo mama said:

but you do hate and dislike WHO they are.

i guess in the end it all comes down to whether or not you believe that people are born gay or not. im going to guess that you do not believe that people are born gay.
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I dislike the act of the sin, just as I dislike other sins. I do not dislike (excuse the double negative) homosexuals.

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what i mean is it is a sin to act upon homosexuality, just like it is a sin to be sleeping around, or stealing, or whatever.

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New Study Links Homophobia with Homosexual Arousal

Broken down further, the measurements showed that while 66% of the nonhomophobic group showed no significant tumescence while watching the male homosexual video, only 20% of the homophobic men showed little or no evidence of arousal. Similarly, while 24% of the nonhomophobic men showed definite tumescence while watching the homosexual video, 54% of the homophobic men did.

When asked to give their own subjective assessment of the degree to which they were aroused by watching each of the three videos, men in both groups gave answers that tracked fairly closely with the results of the objective physiological measurement, with one exception: the homophobic men significantly underestimated their degree of arousal by the male homosexual video.

Do these findings mean, then, that homophobia in men is a reaction to repressed homosexual urges, as psychoanalysis theorizes? While their findings are consistent with that theory, the authors note that there is another, competing theoretical explanation: anxiety. According to this theory, viewing the male homosexual videotape may have caused negative emotions (such as anxiety) in the homophobic men, but not in the nonhomophobic men. As the authors note, 'anxiety has been shown to enhance arousal and erection,' and so it is also possible that 'a response to homosexual stimuli [in these men] is a function of the threat condition rather than sexual arousal per se. These competing notions can and should be evaluated by future research.'
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So, is homosexuality nature or nurture, or is it just a choice?

I don't think that has been settled yet, although some of you seem to think it has been...

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MR. MEOWGI said:

And I guess me being left handed is a choice and a sin too.
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Is There a Link Between Left-Handedness and Homosexuality?

= This year, three Canadian scientists published a study which found some connection between left-handedness and homosexuality (1).

Analyzing a number of studies, their paper concludes that male homosexuals are about one third (31%) more likely than heterosexuals to be left-handed (2), while lesbians are almost twice as likely (91%) to be left-handed as heterosexual women.
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