With the high possibility to get Landry back after this season, I think morey should go for Hasheem Thabeet
Good Question?? .............You cant pass up on a 7ft player,especially if it wont cost you much to get him. I say F - it , get both of them!! Get it done Morey. Lowry Lee A.Randolph Hill Thabeet ^^^just for fun...Crazy line-up...
A serious question- that I want different, if any, inputs on. What's the difference between Mike D'Antoni and Rick Adelman's systems? Giving that response, assimilate as to how and why Anthony Randolph has not played in New York consistently and what would make it so different if he were to come down and play for Houston.
I'm definitely going to agree with your response but I'm looking for something more elaborate to help justify why Randolph isn't playing much there and what would be the difference if he were listed on our bench instead. Is New York just too stacked in the F/C positions? Do they really belittle Randolph? I wonder what gives..
Just like a fat boy does his mouth at a all-u-can-eat....!That is size to the max with defense>offense......
Im not sure there is a viable explanation. Its the same reason Nate Robinson, Jordan Hill and a few others quit getting PT. Coaches decision.
AR just has not played very well. He was given every opportunity to win a spot in NY, in fact D'Antoni was raving about him in the pre-season. If I was to give one reason why he got benched it would be his shooting has gone cold, just shooting at 27% now. He never has had the best mechanics and his jumper looks plain ugly. And now he's sulking which is not helping.
Yes, give NY their 2012 1st rd pick back and forgo the swap for 2011 in exchange for AR and $3M in cash; DM can use the $3M cash to buy a late first round pick which is what the 2012 NY pick looks to be now.
I'd pass unless the Knicks gave up a future second rounder as well. Randolph for a first straight up is not worth it.
A couple of points to make: -AR for a 1st round pick is a no brainer, and he's got the agility to play in the mold of Hakeem! (After a LOT of maturity of course) But an Odom clone is what this team needs. The range will develop, but a weak side shot blocker is someone that we could pair up with a LEGIT center, and have the same level of guard play that we currently trot onto the court - and this team will become relavant again. I'm not sure about an Allstar, but potentially, this move takes us up one level in the playoff standing, bank it. -Thabeet as backup 5 to mold into a starter, another no brainer. Even if we send him to D-League (where he already spent time). Spending time with Brad Miller will automatically up his bbIQ. Spending time with Carol Dawson and Sikma will make him a better center. In the big picture, we could play him again Bynum when Yao is resting, or against Gasol for optimum height against height. It's all about matchups, and having Thabeet available to play big minutes if Yao is limited on minutes will only help this team. The bad part of this is we already have a glut of 4s on this team. Randolph, even though he plays the 3/4/5 will play the 4 mostly I bet, like Jeffries. So we need to get rid of someone. Thabeet will also demand a slot on this team, and we're not getting rid of Miller any time soon. Ideally, we're looking at a roster of: Brooks/Lowry Martin/Lee Randolph/Battier/Bud Scola/Hill Yao/Miller/Thabeet That means Ish/Chuck are out, or Patterson for that matter. We'll have the length and the depth as long as our guards don't get injured, but it makes taking a look at dropping Bud/keeping Ish an option. Or if we are making the youth movement already, then Randolph/Bud share Battier's minutes For Thabeet, we have cheap insurance for Yao going down. The height that neither Chuck nor Patterson possess to play the 5 and Thabeet's potential (because we all know that Big Men take longest to develop) are what make him more valuable than what we have right now. But Hasheem is really only worth two in the bush. With the possible availability of Landry on the other hand, getting rid of Patterson seems ideal. But does taking a PROVEN backup PF that plays OK defense make more sense than keeping Chuck Hayes, a Proven backup 4/5 that plays ELITE defense? The answer is yes, and I'll tell you why. Landry is a proven commodity. And we would be able to sign him to an average contract for someone of his skill. This would also seem valuable in a SnT for an All-Star. Carl isn't a Starter, but he's a finisher. Sco-Landry was a beast, and familiarity/acclimation to the offense/defense will be easy. But Carl has also reached his ceiling, and is a rich man's evential Patrick Patterson. Overall, this lineup is more of what I'd like to see the Rockets turn into: Brooks Martin Randolph (starter because of his defense more than anything) Scola Yao
I don't want Landry back if it means we have to give up on Patterson before we can see what he brings. Carl was a great super sub, but didn't do much other than score.... DD
Rick Adelman runs a Princeton, where the bigs play on the highpost and initiate a lot of offense with dribble handoffs and backdoors. Dantoni runs a "Cycle" type system where the reads are made on the fastbreak, usually ending in a pick & roll our an isolation post up. They stay very wide to open up the dribble-drive. (Not very Randolph friendly) He needs to be at the highpost.
Thank you knote32! So given his lack of efficiency this year and playing time for that matter, D'Antoni's system is not 'Randolph friendly' and presumably- from his history, would do better in an Adelman system instead. A system where he can run off, from the top, after setting a pick.. A+B=C Another serious thought.. (apologizing for the A.D.D.) Chase is, primarily, the only one struggling with his shot thus far; I'm wondering if this Adelman system is best suited for him and which other ones in the league might help to better unlock his potential (which is, I think, self-defeating because doesn't our system help promote equal distribution, equal opportunity.. a team share). .
Yep. He was like Brooks except more efficient, but same lack of defense (terrible D) and not a good rebounder.
Randolph is a face up PF just like Stoudemire, so thats one reason he isn't getting playing time. He isnt and cant exist as a center and he doesnt have the skill set of a 3. D'Antoni also doesnt develop players, because he is a terrible coach. He would get less playing time here but they would develop him as the high post PF for the future, 2-3 years down the line. He has the skill set to pass to cutters, face up and shoot, or drive to the basket as the ideal PF in our system would. Theoretically, if Yao is done, and we continue on with the Adelman system you could find something like this further down the line: Brooks / Lowry Martin / Lee Iggy / Randolph / Patterson Hill / Hayes If Hill and Randolph develop you have a lot of size and quickness in your front court with decent defensive capabilities, with alot of the right pieces for the princeton offense. Its hard to see right now because alot of these guys are so raw, but the potential of a very fluid and dynamic team is there.
