For the 100,000,000th time! Why would New Jersey gut their team, offering young players and talent if Melo says he won't sign an extension with them? If they do gut their entire team of draft picks and young talent, why WOULD Melo sign an extension to play with them. It isn't like a trade where he is still under contract. He is at the end of his contract, which gives him a lot more leverage. Why would New Jersey give up their 1st round pick, Harris, and Lopez for Melo, just to have Melo walk at the end of the season and sign somewhere else? Now they have no Melo, no Harris, and no Lopez, they are lottery bound, AND Denver gets that lottery pick too?!?!? Similar scenarios go for the Knicks and Clippers. Denver can't dictate those terms on anyone. They have very little control over the situation, and are at the mercy of the teams Melo says he will sign with. It would be a lot different if he still had a few years on his contract, but he doesn't.
So Houston doesn't make sense because they have to play the Lakers. And Orlando makes no sense because they have to play the Heat. I guess this writer obviously knows something no one else does. That is, apparently the Nuggets will play in a new conference next year where neither the Lakers nor the Heat exist. :grin:
Yup. Carmelo never mentioned in any article before signing an extension with the clips/warriors/bobcats. I am assuming this is indeed the Nuggets list. They're just trying to start a bidding war though it could prove to a be a moot point if Carmelo wont sign an extension there. None of those teams will give up anything for a 1 year rental.
Maybe Morey hasn't given them our final offer maybe he is trying to see how much they want. Morey won't send the farm system to Denver just for Carmelo. If we send our whole fasrm system we better get Carmelo,Billiups,and JR Smith.
I think Melo would add enough "punk" character to the rockets squad. If jr smith has to come in the deal I hope he's either cut or traded immediately.
There is always the possibility of getting a third team involved to make everything work more smoothly.
Yeah, I think some team in the East would bite if the Rockets said "anyone want JR Smith for some expiring contract?" I say the East because I would prefer to trade him for nothing if the team he went to wasn't competing for a playoff spot. Smith expires anyway, so you could just cut him, but you'd have to worry about a team like the Lakers or another top-tier West team signing him on the cheap while you pay his salary.
I think the Rockets with Melo would be better than the Nuggets with Melo. I don't see the Nuggets winning 42 games if he isn't on that team. The Rockets are a playoff team without him. This is assuming we keep 1 of Brooks/Martin.
i agree. melo would bring instant credibility to the team and give us a good chance of getting deep into the playoffs. i hope we would be able to sign him to an extension though
I can't guarantee who we'll trade or get in return, but I guarantee that DM will not trade for Melo without an extension agreed to because he's going to end up giving up either Brooks/Martin, at least 1 of the Knicks picks and prob one or two of Hill, Budinger, Battier, or Jeffries....I don't see Patterson being included in the trade because they're very high on him...I would say that I don't see them including Budinger because they're high on him as well, but they (Nuggets) are giving up their small forward, so they will want potential more than likely want a three...
Exactly. By that logic, the only way to win is to join either the Lakers or the Heat. Some people still don't get why having the best players sticking together in a couple of teams is bad for the league. The media is already dismissing everybody else as irrelevant in the next 5 years as far as championship is concerned.
This Nuggets blogger wants way to much for Melo.... Again, Carmelo Anthony Will Be Traded August 27, 2010 by Jeremy Just when it seemed like the Carmelo Anthony rumors were going to die down and let us move on with our lives Adrian Wojnarowski comes along and blows things up again. According to a report on Yahoo! Sports by Mr. W. William Wesley told the Nuggets “weeks ago” that they needed to trade Carmelo and provided a list of acceptable destinations. That statement would support the theory I promoted earlier this week right here so it must be true. Josh Kroenke then met with Carmelo on Sunday in an attempt to convince Carmelo that he should remain a Nugget. Apparently the meeting did not go well and the Nuggets are prepared to trade Carmelo. The Knicks, Nets, Rockets and Clippers are still listed as possible landing spots along with Golden State. Apparently Orlando has dropped off the list as I have not seen them mentioned lately. While the article did not come as a surprise to me, I was encouraged to see a passage that provided some insight into what the Nuggets are thinking. The Nuggets made it clear to teams they want young players and draft picks for Anthony, league executives said. I understand the fears many Nuggets fans have of reliving the 19902, but in my mind that is very good news. Trying to remain competitive with an increasingly aged and banged up core of players could truly lead to a disaster. If you are not building toward a title, you better blow things up and it looks like that is what Denver is going to do. I hate to do it, but let’s take a look at what the Clippers and Warriors have to offer as we have already gone over Knicks, Nets and Rockets assets in detail. Let us dispense with the Golden State Warriors first as they are the easiest to analyze. The most frequently mentioned trade involving the Warriors is Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins for Carmleo. That is simply a flat out preposterous deal. Denver will not accept the Warriors’ two toxic contracts in exchange for Carmelo. Golden State would certainly be unwilling to part with Stephen Curry. The Warriors have a couple of project big men in Brandan Wright and rookie Ekpe Udoh. Neither has a particularly high ceiling and there is no way either one or even both could be the centerpiece of a trade for Melo. To make things even worse for Golden State, they have traded their 2011 draft pick to New Jersey, which was just another asset that nets fans are unwilling to part with to Acquire Carmelo. Golden State can join Orlando as teams that have been mentioned as potential suitors, but do not have the pieces to make things work. Next we turn to the Los Angeles Clippers. Few players have been interested in playing in the shadow of the Los Angeles Lakers. However, the Clippers could be on the upswing thanks to the highly anticipated debut of 2009 number one overall pick Blake Griffin. I cannot imagine the Clippers would trade Griffin so we will remove him from the conversation. The most fascinating asset the Clippers hold is the rights to the Minnesota Timberwolves first round pick. Considering the mess that David Kahn has put together in the Land of 10,000 Lakes I would not mind getting my hands on that lottery ticket. The Clippers can also offer a couple of nice young players in Eric Gordon and rookie Al-Farouq Aminu. The bad news is in order to make the salaries work, the Nuggets would have to take on Chris Kaman’s contract with two years remaining. The lack of expiring contracts hurts the Clippers, but they are nearly $5 million under the cap which means the salaries do not need to match exactly allowing the Nuggets to dump some extra salary. For example, while a Kaman, Gordon Aminu for Carmelo trade matches to within $250,000, that extra cap space the Clippers have could be used to include Chris Andersen in the trade as well. The Clippers are definitely a contender for Carmelo’s services although a three way deal sending Kaman somewhere else, such as Detroit for Tayshaun Prince or Philly for Green, Kapono and local boy Jason Smith, and suddenly this option looks incredibly tempting. I mentioned including Birdman in a deal with the Clippers above and that brings us to the true impact of Carmelo’s demands. Every Nugget is on the block at this point. With Denver entering a rebuilding process Birdman, Kenyon, Al Harrington and sadly Chauncey Billups become not only a bit out of place, but their presence actually hinders the rebuilding process as they make the team more competitive than it really should be. I would insist that any team acquiring Carmelo take on Birdman as well. I would tell Kenyon to sit at home and get healthy in anticipation of a trade deadline deal, that may or may not happen. Al Harrington cannot be traded until December, but once that day hits, I would have a deal in place for him too. Chauncey will not be as easy to deal with. He deserves to play on a contender in Denver, but that is not going to be a possibility. The only destination that makes any sense in my mind is Charlotte. They need a point guard, they are at least competitive, they can swap Chauncey for Erik Dampier’s non-guaranteed contract and it will reunite Billups with Larry Brown. I honestly do not see a better situation for him unless he is still on the roster come December 15 and the Lakers can offer all of their players who are on one year contracts. In case you are wondering, I would hang on to Nene. Quality bigs are difficult to find and even though he has a decent sized contract and would help the Nuggets win a few games he is too good to simply dump to get rid of his salary. I would also keep Ty Lawson on board and even though I think he is perfect as a role player on a contender more than a primary weapon on a team in transition I would not trade away Arron Afflalo unless I had to. I know most observers are saying the Nuggets are going to fail to get equal value for Carmelo, and they are right. There is just no way around that fact. I strongly believe Denver is in a better position than everyone realizes. There will be competition between the Knicks, Nets, Rockets and Clippers. The Knicks, Nets are desperate to make a big move and acquire a marquee player. The Clippers are just a notch below that level. I can see Donald Sterling convincing himself that this is his chance to make a run at the Lakers and doing everything he could to acquire Melo. In conclusion, for those of you who were still holding out hope, it is time to prepare to say goodbye to the Nuggets as we know them and get to know the name Harrison Barnes. http://www.roundballminingcompany.com/2010/08/27/carmelo-anthony-will-be-traded/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- So this guy wants the Clippers to give the Nuggets Chris Kaman Aminu Eric Gordon Minny pick Plus to take on Chris Anderson's contract for Melo.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Clippers aren't going to give all that.
Lets see... Clippers - perennial losers. The wife might be happy in LA but not sure how he'd really feel about losing more than winning and being on the LA scrub team while the real glamour team is playing in the other arena. GSW - perennial losers. Not sure San Francisco really an A+ entertainment mecca and again not sure how he'd really feel about losing more than winning. Nets - perennial losers. Close to NY and maybe soon to be NY's 2nd team but right now they are one of the bottom 3 teams in the league. Losing 3 games for every win is almost a guarantee. The wife would be close but is it worth it? Rockets - destine to be back in the playoffs and challenge for a title with Carmelo and a healthy Rocket team. But your newlywed wife will always be in NY or LA until her career bottoms out which may be sooner than later. Do you really want to be away from her 9 months out of the year? Knicks - perennial losers but may - just may - squeak into the playoffs if the team stays healthy. However that is little consolation since then they will get blown out by the Heat, Orlando or Boston. But if they could add Paul, that might be the game changer that they need to compete on that level. You would at least be around your newlywed wife for the home games and the off season. I still say that Carmelo will only sign an extension with the Knicks. The rest are Denver's pawns to try and get them to cough up Randolph and Gallinari instead of Chandler.
I think this person brought up some interesting points. I think we'll see a three-team trade when Melo is dealt. I hope Houston is the one on the receiving end. I think John Hollinger was onto something when he stated that Charlotte, Houston, and Denver could swing a deal. If Billups were to go to Charlotte, there's no doubt in my mind that AB would be traded to Denver. But to make salaries work, Denver would have to waive Dampier's contract right off the bat in order for Houston to trade them one of our expiring contracts along with fillers. I like our chances of landing Melo. Denver understands that it's time to hit the reset button which isn't a easy thing to do. They want young talent and draft picks which is the smart way to go. IMO, the Nets still are a big threat. I know Melo like NY but I just can't see NY having the assets to swing a deal. Even if they brought in a third team, how can they package anything?
If Charlotte gets Billups and we lose Brooks to Denver, we better be getting back DJ Augustine or our FO really thinks highly of Lee's point guard skills.
Well you would put Lowry at PG. He's ready to take the next step. IMO, Lowry would fit better on a team with Martin, Melo, Scola, and Yao. You don't need a Brooks in that line up. I like Brooks a lot but Lowry is a pass first PG that does the dirty work that this team needs. Brooks is an elite scoring PG in this league and we saw that last year. Will Houston need a back up PG? Yes, but I trust Morey can pick someone up. I know we also signed that other guy as well.
I may be alone in my assessment but I don't want him to be a Rocket. I don't think he is a team player as much as he is out for himself. I question whether he would truly be a good fit for the Rockets.
