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Another officer shooting of black man

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Aug 23, 2020.

  1. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    so what's the charge or why is being arrested?
     
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    Just for the sake of clarity , domestic calls are some of the most dangerous / volatile that police deal with.
     
  3. Two Sandwiches

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    Bring a suspect doesn't always equate to being arrested. They were called for a domestic violence situation. He was suspected of doing something during a domestic violence situation. Maybe he was suspected of yelling at his wife?
     
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  4. rocketsjudoka

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    In any dealing between LE there is an LEO and a suspect. That is just the terminology, doesn't mean the "suspect" is guilty of anything or that the "Law Enforcement Officer" didn't act outside of the law.
     
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  5. rocketsjudoka

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    Anytime there is a shooting by LE it's likely going to be multiple shots. The training is shoot at the center of mass until the threat is over. That means until the target is on the ground..

    There is no such thing as shoot to wound.
     
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  6. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    howbout LEO and bystander

    LEO and suspect/perpetrators/victims relative
     
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  7. vlaurelio

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    if you read the news report it says two women were fighting and he was trying to stop it
     
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    i don't doubt there are and so i said 'non violence domestic' ...

    personally, i don't have much experience with it, lol.. but if you have stats, i would love to see it
     
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    This is an excellent point. The person's past history doesn't fully justify what happened in the moment. It's like talking about George Floyd's conviction on armed robbery justified him essentially being tortured to death.

    I will say again we don't know all the facts yet. We know an LEO shot a suspect but from the video it's still unclear what happened in that moment. It's also unclear about the lead up to that moment, why he was going to his car, why the LE even drew their guns. Blake could've been reaching for a weapon or he could've just been reaching for his keys. We don't know yet.
     
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    OK, so the guy was an idiot.
     
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    Just saw that too. I think suspect is just a common vernacular to describe anyone in any kind of altercation with LEO. I see your point, though, for sure.
     
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    The suspect could be all four. We don't know all the facts yet and this is the standard terminology.
     
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  13. vlaurelio

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    so if he's just a bystander he's a suspect?
     
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  14. vlaurelio

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    yes I just want to know the details of what transpired before the video, what kind of interaction he had with the LEO and if there was an altercation
     
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    Frankly until we know more that is the case. That is generally how stuff like this is reported especially when there is little context. Again I'm not placing a value judgement on this. Just using the term.

    In this case Blake certainly wasn't a bystander. LE didn't shoot him accidentally and he wasn't caught in crossfire that was for sure. He was deliberately targeted and whether that was justified or not at the moment I haven't seen enough info to say that is correct or not.
     
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    That's the problem. Their perceptions about danger are wrong again and again, yet they aren't held accountable for being wrong. They need better training on how to perceive and analyze dangerous situations, the proper actions to take in those situations and be held accountable when they are wrong.
     
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    I can’t believe he’s still alive. I thought they killed him.
     
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    Technically they were correct in their actions, yes he should have complied (especially with guns trained on him) but there were enough of them to take him down before he went around his vehicle. It should not have gotten that far.
    Poorly handled.
     
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    Officers are on administrative leave while investigations take place.
    Let's not count our chickens until they're hatched.
     
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    I was commenting on what has happened in the past and not this particular case unless it happens to fit. My very first post said that I don't know all of the circumstances.
     
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