McCain can't switch VP candidates without risk losing his party's base and you do know it. I don't think she'll withdraw, but that's the only way McCain's candidacy will survive if he has to choose someone else. That's all I meant.
This is a perfect storm of crap for McCain. The party regulars wouldn't stand for anybody pro-choice who could actually win those mythical Clinton Democrats, Mitt Romney would play into the out-of-touch rich guy meme and Pawlenty was just not exciting enough. Why was Mike Huckabee not a serious contender? He has the governing and fundamentalist cred and is a pretty appealing candidate. Was there some personality difference between him and McCain? I can't help but think this rash decision to pick Palin was some sort of FU from McCain to the GOP hierarchy. It's almost like McCain wants to lose on purpose.
My wife thanks this has been the plan from the start. She will "protect her family", and resign. McCain and Co can say they support women and are socially conservative--by putting Palin on the ticket--but the visciousness of the leftist media toward a 17 year old girl was too great, and "he understands her family comes 1st". They can play into the whole Christians being attacked/victim card within the Christian Right (there actually is this sentiment among some that Christianity is oppressed). Basically they can use Palin to still fire up the base, and then roll out Romney or Huckabee or Jindal. Me, I am not convinced. I think McCain was just reckless, too intuitive and impulsive. I think the risks of her pulling out will outweigh the benefits, unless this TrooperGate thing has Watergate like evidence. But I also disagree with below.... Say Palin dropped out "for her family", and Jindal, after great publicity as a can do governor and also an out of Washington politician, slides in. I am not convinced they won't be better off, they could plays off women and social conservatives who think not that McCain chose bad, but Palin got mistreated in ways they can identify with (perceived she is being persecuted b/c of her faith, attacked for being a working mom, etc). I am sure it is a hot debate in camp McCain. I voted ever so slightly that she stays in.
I don't get it either. Hackabee scared me as a VP choice because the guy is so likable even if you don't agree with much he says. Potentially tap in social conservatives (he seems to approach it from a much more positive and optimistic tone than most--not self-righteous) and the populist Dems that the Clintons' had.
Maybe he saw Obama's pastor get attacked... and he being a Baptist minister knew they'd find something somewhere on tape to harp on. idk
Jindal the Faith Healer who performs Exorcisms? He has quite a bit of baggage himself. He's not totally clean of scandals either.
Whatever I Roc It. Do you think I'm somehow scared to vote? I asked the question because I was curious as to other people's opinions, not because I have a prediction I'm pushing. But I will vote for you. I vote that she will probably be the candidate on Election Day. But, as I have said, I think it's remarkable that the question is anything other than totally ridiculous. Now, since I voted just for you, how about you return the favor and explain how it was or wasn't a colossal blunder on the part of your candidate to announce a VP nominee without fully vetting her first.
Dude, if she's a "religious extremist" then where do we live? Communist China? I think you're in for a rude awakening. BTW- I posted a new thread with an article from the WSJ... here's a link for you... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122031229774188795.html?mod=googlenews_wsj There's plenty response to you in there. Thanks for voting! (in your own poll, I might add)
Yep. I have a church gig at a conservative southern baptist church. 2 weeks ago, in a discussion on a passage in Romans 8, the pastor talked about people who were against Christianity. He essentially called liberals "communists" and said they were against Christianity and tried to defend why the poor should be poor and the rich should be rich. He also said that more liberal Christian denominations were against them. The way he spoke, you would have thought that Christians were a harshly oppressed minority in this country.
Well I agree with you, and I disagree with your wife's position that it was a plan. If I disagree with you at all is that it might work if it has been a strategy all along. But I'm not that cynical about McCain - yet. But for the life of me I'll never understand how a sentient woman could truly buy into this social conservative doggeral, but if it works for them many seem to not care as long as they feel capable of protecting their own daughters. When Barbara went on national television to say she disagreed with H. W.'s stand on abortion is the last time I've seen a GOP female get real.
She believes in Creationism and believes it should be taught in schools. She is opposed to sex education. She opposes abortion in all cases, including rape and incest. We live in America where those views are attributed to the extreme religious fringe. On social issues, she is the most conservative nominee on a major party ticket in our lifetimes. By definition, that puts her on the fringe.
Just a question... can you name a more scrutinized religious sector in our general populous? To be such a supposed majority at least? Just curious.
I'd call that a fundamentalist. I'd use extremist for someone that kills in the name of their beliefs, or someone that is doing some sort of damage to the flow and system of the government. Just wow. Two different worlds we've got here.
We have different definitions of "extremist" then. I wasn't suggesting she advocated killing. But if you'll acknowledge that she's a fundamentalist, that's plenty extreme enough for me. And it's way too extreme for most of this country.
Actually maybe we don't have totally different definitions of "extremist." Someone who advocates changing the law to jail doctors if they perform abortions on rape victims is certainly extreme enough in her religious beliefs to damage our system of government.
I qualified the question by adding the caveat... Do you have the empirical data to suggest the practice of Islam has overtaken Christianity in the US?
