When healthy, I agree that they are VERY talented. Rubio is a potential star, and pec elite potential at the center spot. Williams, I feel is too much of a tweener. He can't play sf effectively because he has no handles. And Love had the pf spot locked up. The wolves need to add some versatility, a do everything guy more than they need d-will. If they had Chandler Parsons and added Jermey Lamb in the draft, this team would be in the playoffs next year: even if they traded b-easy and d-will to get it done.
If you'll re-read, my post, you'll see I separated D-Will from the other guys that I've concluded are probably lost causes. I'm not writing DWill off yet, but like I've said, he's been underwhelming so far and I don't see him being able to play the 3...And he's just not going to help the Wolves that much playing PF behind arguably the best PF in the league. I guess we'll just agree to disagree about the Wolves being stacked from top to bottom with potential and talent. I don't see a great future for anyone outside of their core three players. But that is a pretty nice future core once they get healthy. If they can somehow add a set of average wings they'll be a good team.
if love wasnt white people would say he is a beast. Losing team has nothing to do with individual skill. He proves he is allstar night after night BUT we dont see him on kia commercials or nba highlight reels. He IS the best PF in the league right now and is a game changer. Haters will hate but that "stat pad" crap is getting old.
WTF does race have to do with anything? For example Dwight Howard at the same age had already made 1 finals appearance, 3 playoff berths, and 4 playoff series won. This despite his team winning only 19 games before they drafted him. Yeah, Kevin Love certainly is a game changer at that level.
Here are my two cents on the subject of Kevin Love: While Kevin Love is a talented player, he isn't the "game-changer" type of talent that people are giving him credit for. I've seen articles out there placing him amongst the candidates for MVP this season. Granted, he puts up some impressive numbers, his team is currently 25-29 and sitting as the 12th seed of the Western Conference. People will argue that WITHOUT Kevin Love, the Wolves would be even worse, but honestly just HOW much worse can they get. Currently, there are only 3 teams with worse records in the Western Conference. Hell, even in the Eastern Conference, the Wolves aren't a playoff team. A lot of people thought the Bulls would take a serious hit when Derrick Rose went out, but they're managing impressively well without him. So lets remove the HYPOTHETICAL BS and stick with THE FACTS. The Wolves are one of the WORST teams in the NBA even with Love putting up monster numbers and even without him, they would probably still be one of the worst teams in the league. Unless of course, somebody is going to argue that the Wolves would somehow be better WITHOUT Love, which would then render this whole entire argument moot. Kevin Love is the classic example of a decent player putting up monster numbers on a bad team, or a team that doesn't know how to fully utilize its talents. There is also the misconception that the Wolves are devoid of talent, which is NOT the case. The team is littered with former lottery picks (i.e. Beasley, Williams, Johnson, Rubio (albeit injured), Randolph, Webster, etc.) yet have been rather unimpressive despite Love putting up some crazy numbers. Simple fact of the matter is, if Love was truly a game-changer, the Wolves would be sitting prettier than 25-29 and 12th in the Western Conference. Hell, you could argue that the Wolves should hypothetically have a better record than the Rockets who are WITHOUT arguably their two best players in Martin and Lowry. In conclusion, Kevin Love is a good player, but he's just another example of a guy on a not-so-impressive team putting up some rather impressive numbers. He's not the first and he certainly won't be the last.
Kevin Love is a beast, and people deny it because of the stomp. Even though he plays for a team out of the playoff picture, he still plays against the same teams that say Kobe and Durant play against.
He is a terrific player, but talk about he is on the same level with TD and Larry? After he gets a couple of MVP's and a few FMVP's may be.
I think he is a beast but there some serious holes in his game such as defense and shooting percentage. 45% is terrible for a big and his D is near Amare territory.
FG% is one of the worst stats out there, especially since Love grabs so many rebounds and shoots a lot of 3's for a big. Love's TS% is great, while his eFG% is good. You don't watch the Wolves at all. Their good talent is: Pekovic ( injured) Rubio (injured) Williams (so-so) Barea ( so-so) That's it. Everyone else would be wearing suits on the Rockets. And they're a near .500 team, compared to the last two years when they were a total laughing stock. They probably would have made the playoffs this year if they had stayed healthy. But they didn't, and because Kahn's a complete moron, they now have no one around Love.
^^ Fair enough but I don't think he should be taking that many 3s. What's really preventing him from becoming a top tier guy is the fact he's really not a good ISO player. You can dump the ball to superstars and get hell out of the way and watch them work. You can't do that with Love. When he can initiate an offense, I will consider him a superstar. Don't get me wrong, I would trade anyone on our team for him. However, I don't think he will ever win anything unless he plays with someone that can take over a game or develops some ISO skills. I had the same criticism about Garnett. He could never carry a team offensively because he couldn't abuse single coverage. That is why he never did anything in Minnesota and Pierce is the leader of the Celtics.
In less than four seasons Kevin Love has lost more games than Duncan, Howard, Bird, Malone or Robinson did in a decade. In less than four seasons Kevin Kevin Love is far better than anyone on the Rockets or Grizz... But basketball is a two way sport.
If had to win a series this year, I would pick a healthy Zbo over Love. Zbo can take over a game on the offensive end.
How much worse could they be? They are 17 games out of the best record in the league, but they are also 17 game better than the worst team in the league. The T-Wolves would suck without Love considering the injuries. Michael Beasley sucks. He's basically flamed out with two teams, and he has been in the league long enough to have realized his potential. Wes Johnson is looking like a bust, but he'll get another year. Derrick Williams may become good, but he is too inconsistent right now. Anthony Randolph is with his 3rd team. He's another bust. It's like saying we were super talented because we had Hasheem Thabeet/Terrance Williams/Johnny Flynn/Jordan Hill.
He only got there because of Cassell and Sprewell. Before they got there, he was a second round virgin. Those guys created a lot of shots for him. KG can't be the center piece of the offense or you won't go very far.
Love’s crunch-time scoring numbers are solid, if not outstanding. In the last five minutes of games in which the scoring margin has been five or fewer points, Love has shot 24-of-44 (44 percent), compared to Durant’s 39-of-95 mark (41 percent).
