[Another iPhone Killer] Google Nexus One (Android OS)

And betray Mr. Dick? Never! I owe my very existence to him. (now let me Google the family's address so I can send them a letter of support)

 

Bumping this thread because I'm thinking of getting a Nexus One soon. Does anyone here own one and have a review of their own to give? I saw they updated their software and added multi-touch capability back in February. This would be my first smart phone.

 

Well, that didn't take very long...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/07/19/nexus.one.discontinued/index.html?hpt=T2

Another example of how product with superior features is not always a superior product. Something iPhone haters/Android fanboys don't quite get: it's not just about the features for most people. It's ease-of-use, universal support, availability of apps, accessories, etc. These are the things that made the iPhone come out on top in the past.

This is a crucial time for the Android market. The iPhone brand is as weak as it's ever been (and probably will ever be), and if Android can't take advantage and grab a large portion of market share soon, I think they could be in trouble long-term.

 

Crap, I've been waiting for August (22nd month of my 2 yr contract with T-Mobile) to upgrade to this.

I hope it's still in stock by then......

 

This depends on what you're calling "Android". If it's the platform, it sells every bit as well as the iPhone because it's across multiple networks. Google's phone may not have sold well, but the Android platform itself sells like crazy : http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/07/16/steve-jobs-confirms-android-outselling-iphone/

As for why the iPhone came out on top in the past, I'll disagree with you. The one thing that jumpstarted the iPhone was the apps (with a close 2nd going to "coolness factor"). It's the only reason I bought one - the apps put it ahead of the curve. Even with the 3G, I knew at the time I was sacrificing functionality cheap, average phones alredy had. The accessories and everything else came later for Apple - that was after the hook had been set.

 

Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron? The superior phone not being superior? It is superior to the iPhone in every way except for time on market. IPhone has the head start, that's why its more successful. It was almost 2009 when Android first started with the g1 with zero percent of the cell phone market. Almost two years later it garners about 12 percent.

If less is more for the masses, I'm gonna wager that this will eventually change. And let's not forget that the iPhone is not number one. That title belongs to RIM.

As for the nexus one, its failure, if you will call it that was trying to sell it from their own selves. If it had Verizon backing it, it would of done exponentially better. The weird pricing and difficulty in getting a plan for the nexus was its downfall. Lesson learned.

It's like iPhone fanboys struggle to explain why they bought inferior phones.

 

Google didn't put that much into it in terms of advertising. You couldn't see the phone at a TMobile store and people are wary of buying things site unseen. I have two friends with Nexus One's who love them.

I wanted to get one when they came out, but you had to pay out the ass for one if you are on the family plan. Thanks for nothing Google.

 

No. It's simply an indication that the superior phone is not a perfect phone. There is no perfect phone. At the time, the value of the apps on the iPhone to me was greater than its shortcomings. The lack of apps available on other phones left them far behind no matter what else they did (to me, at least). Today, the decision for me is much more difficult. As it is, I still think overall, the iPhone is an imperfect phone that is still superior to almost every phone out there, but now I can see how people think Android-based phones are superior.

Signed,

Still Looking for a Blasted New Phone.

 

Are you considering the Dell Streak at all? Comes out on the 27th apparently. I am in your boat, I cant decide.

 

At the moment, probably not. I think the phone may be a bit too large. That and I've been hearing luke-warm reviews on it. I won't buy it without hearing what "early adopters" in ths US have to say about it, anyway. Here's a review if you're interested :

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/dell-streak-review-redux-thoughts-from-the-new-world/

I'm now leaning toward the iPhone for now partly because the early Droid X's have had screen issues (even though it only affects a tiny portion of buyers), but I may just wait longer to see what comes up even though my 3G is aggravating the crap out of me sometimes. Right now I could flip a coin between the Droid X and the iPhone 4.

 

The Nexus One has done the job google needed it to do. It showed manufacturers what a high-end android device needed to be. notice the emergence of high end android smartphones after the launch of the Nexus One.

 

LOL! Wishful thinking on your part.

This is not a particularly crucial time for Android. It has incredible momentum right now with no end in sight. A boatload of superior phones are coming up in September, November and beyond.

To say the iPhone brand is as weak as ever is just silly. I suggest you take a look at demand for the iPhone 4. Sure Apple hurt themselves, but demand for iPhones has never been higher because this latest version is a significant upgrade over the prior. Au contraire, things have never been better for the iPhone. If the fiasco had caused a slowdown in demand, then it would be another story. This mess could hurt Apple long-term, not short-term. If something like this happens again, they will get pounded 10 times worse by the press and the buying public probably won't give them another pass.

This is a marathon, not a sprint. Even without the antennae problems, the iPhone platform will eventually fall behind Android for a lot reasons (already discussed). IMO, it's barely debatable now. Even with the unbelievable sales success of the iPhone 4, Android has made up an incredible amount of ground the last 8-12 months. No sane person would have predicted it. Going forward the next 12 months, the Android platform will continually announce major hardware and software improvements while Steve Jobs will probably wait until next year. Whatever iPhone is announced next spring needs to be another major upgrade instead of an incremental step. It's clear the Android phones available then will nuke the one's on sale this summer (which is why I'm waiting for Christmas [at the earliest] to upgrade my son's phone).

Good luck finding anyone (who knows anything) that agrees with you on Android even "possibly" being in trouble long-term. Forget it.

Who is really in trouble? RIM. Unless they step up their game big-time, their market share will fall off a cliff the next couple of years because the iPhone and Android platforms will make major hay in the enterprise.

 

That depends on what you think the definition of 'fall behind' is. By virtue of sheer math alone, with mutiple carriers and mutliple handsets you could say it will 'overtake'. But there's a lot more to it than that.

And of course, there's always the question of what happens when the iPhone is no longer locked into one carrier. Apple just released it's quarterly results: the sales in that period (including the launch of iPhone 4) was 8.4 million phones. What happens when the AT&T shackles are thrown off?

 

As far as the apps go, most of the really good apps have already been ported to the Android market, and in general much cheaper if not free on the Android market.

Throw in the fact that you can put custom roms on your Android phones, download music for free without having to deal with itunes, its an open source market, and you can overclock your phone.

Android is definitely here for the long haul, and I am positive that Steve Jobs worries about androids ever expanding customer base more so every day. With phones like the Evo 4, Droid X, and Galaxy S line, selling big across three different carriers I'm sure Apple is concerned.

 

By "fall behind" I meant market share. Obviously iPhone sales will surge whenever they become available on Verizon. While I don't know what financial incentives were involved by staying so long with AT&T, Apple opened the door for another platform to explode at Verizon. That was a gift for Android. If Verizon already had the iPhone in the fold, I doubt Android would be where it is today and it's prospects wouldn't be so bright.

Both platforms will be very successful long-term. I'm watching the battle between them like a sporting event.

 

That's all gravy for, say, 10% of the cell phone users out there. The rest of the casual phone users who are not that technologically inclined, don't know and don't care about overclocking, custom roms, open source etc. And there still isn't much comparison between App Store and the Android Market. Especially when it comes to the games, which many people use.

 

Phone was not the issue at all. It was how they sold it. Not letting tmobile family plan get the upgrade price = FAIL. And that's all there was to it.

I have the phone and MANY people I know go gaga over it when they see it. But, the tmobile customers are bargain hunters and many have the family plan. Add to this fact that you can only buy it online = double FAIL.

And tmobile has the weakest 3G network out there so people are not going to pay for a high-performance smartphone that can't be used to its potential. Triple FAIL.

Then google sucks donkey balls in providing tech support for this phone because the whole concept of selling and maintaining a 'concrete' product is new to them. Quadruple FAIL.

 

Still haven't bought a new smartphone yet but the N1 was my top choice for the longest. So many new phones are being thrown out that I'm waiting until around the Christmas holidays which is around the time my contract runs out to get a new phone.

 

And it's already sold out............farewell and goodbye! We hardly knew ya!