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Another Industry Employees fall prey to Affordable Care Act.

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  1. Rocketman1981

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/palm-beach-state-college-health-insurance_n_2441927.html

    Palm Beach State College Limiting Adjunct Faculty Hours To Avoid Health Insurance Coverage Costs


    The Huffington Post | By Tyler Kingkade Posted: 01/11/2013 11:14 am EST | Updated: 01/11/2013 11:17 am EST


    Palm Beach State College is the latest to announce it will begin limiting the hours adjunct instructors can work in order to avoid new requirements under the Affordable Care Act.

    The college told employees in December it will limit adjunct faculty to no more than three classes and a maximum of 30 hours per week, which would require the college to provide health insurance, according to a letter obtained by The Huffington Post.

    "All of us want to ensure that we have enough adjuncts to staff classes, but we are faced with new rules," a letter circulated on the Boca Raton campus stated.

    Under the new federal rules included in the Affordable Care Act, sometimes called Obamacare, any employee who works 30 hours or more per week will be considered a full-time and subject to employer provided health insurance.

    "n essence," the letter said, "adjuncts can only work three-fifths of a full-time faculty load."

    PBSC is the latest in a series of colleges to limit the hours adjunct faculty can work to avoid providing health insurance. Each of the schools named so far are public colleges.

    Many restaurants, heavily reliant on part-time employees who work nearly full-time schedules, have already begun scaling back the hours they permit employees to work in order to avoid this requirement.




    The Internal Revenue Service recently issued new guidelines on how to approach counting hours worked by adjunct instructors, specifically saying colleges need to include time spent grading and preparing for class.

    Part-time faculty already earn roughly one-fourth of what tenure-track professors bring home, according to the American Association of University Professors. In 1969, "78 percent of instructional staff comprised tenured or tenure-track professors," with the rest being adjuncts, according to Inside Higher Education. Today. Those statistics have essentially flipped, and now only a third are tenured faculty.

    Officials with PBSC did issue a comment by press time.

    Read the letter sent to adjunct instructors at the Boca Raton, Fla. campus below:

    Adjunct faculty, Yesterday we received an e-mail from Human Resources advising us of important changes to adjunct teaching loads. I am sharing this information with you since it affects the number of classes you can teach for us. If any changes occur, we will keep you informed.
    “Now that we are certain that we must implement the Patient Protection Affordability Care Act (Obamcare), we must limit the amount of classes that adjuncts teach. Effective the Spring term, 2013, credit adjuncts cannot teach more than 27 points per term (Spring, Summer and Fall), or a total of no more than 81 points in a calendar year. The total of 81 points per calendar year applies to classes and assignments at all campus. (Please note that contact hours for credit classes are not the only hours that we must account for; we have to factor in prep, grading, etc., and, in essence, adjuncts can only work three-fifths of a full time faculty load.)”
    [my comment: reminiscent of the three-fifths compromise of 1787, regarding the slave population. If anyone cared, this abhorrent slur would be called out.]

    For PSAV adjuncts, they can teach no more than 480 contacts hours per term (Spring, Summer and Fall).
    All of us want to ensure that we have enough adjuncts to staff classes, but we are faced with new rules. If you have already been scheduled for a 4th class and we have made that commitment, we will honor it for spring semester. However, adjuncts may not teach more than a total of 81 points next calendar year (January - December 2013).
     
  2. Rocket River

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    So . . . they are being FORCED to be Cheap?

    Rocket River
     
  3. Svpernaut

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    Nothing new... this is happening across the board.
     
  4. Northside Storm

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    across the board, eh

    what could be countering that.

     
  5. Commodore

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    same unemployment rate as when he took office, but with a smaller workforce
     
  6. Northside Storm

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    In the face of the worst recession since the Great Depression, caused by AIG FP, and Goldman et. al.

    [​IMG]

    looks like Obamacare is killing the recovery.
     
  7. DFWRocket

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    There's a difference between being cheap and trying to keep a college afloat. would you rather them lay people off? Is it better to under-employ a bunch of people, or close the college and not provide any jobs at all. The budget has to be cut somewhere if your costs continue to increase otherwise you can't survive.

    Besides, most adjunct profs have full time jobs elsewhere with benefits - they teach in their spare time for a variety of reasons.
     
  8. GladiatoRowdy

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    Start giving the state colleges reasonable levels of funding and they will be able to hire more full time faculty. The result of tax cutting and cutting funding to state colleges and universities is right there in your article...

    "Part-time faculty already earn roughly one-fourth of what tenure-track professors bring home, according to the American Association of University Professors. In 1969, "78 percent of instructional staff comprised tenured or tenure-track professors," with the rest being adjuncts, according to Inside Higher Education. Today. Those statistics have essentially flipped, and now only a third are tenured faculty."

    That isn't the Democrat's fault, nor is it the fault of the PPACA. It is the result of people being greedy.
     
  9. Svpernaut

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    Did you read the article? It is about a college limiting workers to 30 hours so they don't have to pay health insurance. This is happening everywhere, and has nothing to do with the unemployment rate.

    This took 60 seconds...

    http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2012/10/10/darden-restaurants-looks-to-limit.html
    http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20130121/EDIT05/301219969/1147/EDIT07
    http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/fo...s-to-part-time-status-blames-obamacare-60307/
    http://blogs.e-rockford.com/tedbion...d-to-reduce-part-time-hours-due-to-obamacare/
    http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2013/01/14/biz/nm-businesses-brace-for-obamacare.html

    TL,DR - Companies are just going to cut people's hours so they don't have to pay their insurance credits.
     
  10. Commodore

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    you want their money but they are greedy?
     
  11. Northside Storm

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    Anecdotal data points.

    The overall aggregate shows a strong recovery in jobs, considering the circumstances.

    For every company you can post a story about, another two are hiring thanks to Obama Administration policy.

    which counters the whole mad bullrush about "Obamacare killing ALL our jobs".

    excuse the president for solving asymmetric information problems, saving taxpayer dollars from the absolute stupidity of health-care by emergency and fixing up an issue that used to cost 45,000 American lives a year.

    http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...s-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

    All while maintaining the recovery in jobs across the board. Impressive.
     
  12. GladiatoRowdy

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    I don't want anyone's money. I do, however, want a civilized society and taxes are the price we pay for that.

    And yes, they are greedy for getting a leg up on the back of the society that the Greatest Generation sacrificed to give them and then turning around and hamstringing that society for a few bucks.
     
  13. meh

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    I don't see the issue here. We live in a free market economy. And colleges are fail of this economy. Their revenue comes mostly from the government, and are unable to get their state government to stop slashing fund left and right. Do you see Harvard or Yale caring about Obamacare? Of course not, because those are true job creators who don't need no stinking government support.

    Things like this simply shows that public education isn't working and can't compete with private colleges. You can't afford to get into Ivy league school? Don't bother with higher education.
     
  14. bigtexxx

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    lol you mean the taxes you want other people to pay? If you were sincere then you'd make voluntary extra tax payments to the IRS. It's an option, you know. If you don't, you're a hypocrite.
     
  15. tallanvor

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    You could use such a childish platitude to justify any amount of taxation for any cause (i.e. subsidies). It's absolutely meaningless unless you were arguing with someone who advocates 0 taxation (which nobody on the board does).
     
  16. dandorotik

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    Such a stupid argument. A more fair tax system, like the one we used to have- yeah, that'd work!! Why should individuals volunteer to pay more? Everyone pays their fair share- and yes, some don't because they make next to nothing- and yes, some pay more because they make more. Geez, bunch of f**king morons advancing this volunteer-to-pay argument.
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    :grin: Uhh NO!
     
  18. Major

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    Sounds like they are lowering the unemployment rate and getting some additional people off of social services. Why is this bad?
     
  19. Svpernaut

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    Again... you're missing the point. Small and struggling businesses are going to cut back hours on staff so they do not have to pay for insurance they can't afford. What does this mean? It means that the now part-time employees have to cover their own health insurance costs of the individual mandate or face fines. You can say those are anecdotal data points but that is tens of thousands of employees just with the links I posted. That's tens of thousands of people now having to pay for their individual mandate.

    This has NOTHING to do with the employment rate, I have no idea why you keep bringing it up. It has to do with the fact that many businesses can't afford Obamacare, so they are going to leave it up to their employees by cutting their hours and paying them less so they don't get fined.
     
  20. geeimsobored

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    That's better than those people simply not having health care and then forcing people with insurance to cover the cost of their ER visits with higher premiums.

    Are you ok with freeloaders leeching off of our healthcare system then?
     

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