I wouldn't necessarily call them pedophiles. These are high school boys, who for the most part are physically mature. These teachers are predators who abuse their power and get off on that.
What @TMac'n said. They're pedos. They're sick ****s. If the age difference was less than 5 years and the younger person was 17, I can see it. But these are people 10+ years older than the kids they're banging. They're sick ****s.
Technically no, they're rapists. Pedophilia involves a prepubescent minor. Once the child reaches puberty, it's statutory rape.
Legally anyone under 18 (the age of majority in the U.S.) is considered a child. My concern is that we're throwing around the word "Pedophile" so much lately that the meaning is almost losing it's severity. It's also being weaponized against marginalized communities. Let's reserve the word pedophiles for actual pedophiles and call the rapists a rapist.
There is a double standard with gender roles, but it's more about the severity of judgments. There's a clear difference between prepubescent and post-puberty. I agree that anyone in a relationship with a minor with more than 5 years age difference is a creep, but I wouldn't call a 22-year old dating a 17-year old a pedophile. Take that same situation in another country and it's perfectly legal.
I assure you, the term/label pedophile is very serious to me and millions of others in this country. Let's not draw the line at puberty. Some kids go through it at a very young age. 12 is still a kid, and most people hit puberty by that age.
This gets lost so much, but definitions matter. Pedophilia is an actual psychological disorder, defined with specific parameters. A 35 year old man seeing a 16 year old girl and thinking she is hot is not pedophilia. You can find it creepy and it would be rape in many states if they had (even consensual) sexual contact, but it is not pedophilia. Pedophilia requires the minor to be prepubescent. It's a psychological disorder that causes someone to be attracted to children who have not gone through puberty. These are very different things and need to be treated very differently.
The legal and psyhcological world has already drawn the line. Yes, a 12yr old is still a child, but it's classified as statutory rape, not pedophilia. See Justtyanks post
Yeah and the reason the definitions matter is because of who they are likely to target, etc. Let's be honest. Any man is capable of seeing a girl and thinking "wow, she is hot" and then finding out she's 17 or 16. The stories of a guy sleeping with a girl that he thought was 19 and finding out she was 16 are real. That is not pedophilia. The reasons why we outlaw that are because of murky consent, power structure, reasoning, etc. Pedophilia is children. Not overdeveloped young girls either. The whole point is the person wants a CHILD. Not a good looking girl that doesn't have baggage yet, but an actual "little girl" or "little boy." They are sick in the head, not being duped by a 16 year old girl with big boobs. A pedophile would NOT be attracted to THAT girl. We have to treat them differently because the pedophile is more likely to abduct, kill, become a predator because his mental illness is causing him to have urges about CHILDREN.
The age of majority is relevant to entering into contracts or having the ability to make your own decisions. The age of consent is more germane to this discussion which is 17 in Texas and 16 in many other states. https://www.ageofconsent.net/states Back to the discussion regarding the female teachers and why this is happening. My theory is that when they were in HS they likely didn’t get as much attention and now they have likely attractive, popular teens probably teasing and flirting with them. If you include that with propinquity (which leads to a lot of workplace romances), and what I call the hero effect (where a woman confides to a sympathetic male about their situational unhappiness and the shoulder to cry on uses it to instigate a sexual relationship) and finally the anonymity and ease of social media to flirt and connect and here we are.
This thread is not what it used to be. This is not the America I knew. Please change thread title to “The science and classification of another hot for the teacher” ****ing geeks ruin everything
I don't disagree with any of this. I only brought up the age of majority as it relates to the definition of a "child" because the other poster was equating pedophilia with children instead of prepubescent children. 16 year olds aren't usually prepubescent, but they are considered children. Therefore, the teacher is not a pedophile, but she is a rapist as this fits the definition of statutory rape.
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I think a lot of these female teacher types are still living in high school and just want a shot at the prom king or QB1 just like a lot of guys still daydream about the prom queen or head cheerleader. They get caught up in the fantasy of it and put themselves in a place where it is easy to give in to that fantasy and lose touch with reality. I'm sure some are predators, but I suspect a good number just never matured emotionally and never developed the impulse controls necessary to teach at that level... and let's not talk about college profs. (If there was social media in the late 1970s, half of my high school's English Department would have done prison time.)
It seems like most of the women who do this look like the type of girl who was basically ignored by the cool kids in high school and they are trying to relive their teenage years. If they started getting the same type of sentences as men who commit the same offenses that might help stop it.
