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Another ESPiN Anti-Harden Narrative

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  1. AggieRocketFan96

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    https://es.pn/2LqnyLO

    it’s really getting out of hand.

    A new ESPiN article hyping Giannis in their latest bid to thwart a Harden repeat for MVP:

    The report is full of obvious bias and contradictions but it’s minimizing of Harden and the Rockets approach to basketball is really the language of the their anti-Morey ball narrative:

    “Yes Harden is a master scorer, but he doesn’t hold a candle to Giannis Antetokoumpo in the paint...”

    It then goes into a glorious description of Giannis’ game in glowing terms repudiating the moneyball approach (3s, free throws, and layups) with this cute quote, “Although 3-pointers are precious, dunks remain the most efficient play in the sport.”

    It finishes with a description of Harden’s game in much less comparative glowing terms, even referring to Harden’s step back 3 as still in “beta testing” probably insinuating that it’s not a legal move.

    “Harden might not be the superstar we love, but he’s the one we deserve.”

    Ironically, it describes Tucker as the most efficient corner 3 scorer but no mention of Harden or CP3 as facilitators never mind that it’s part of the Houston system as a whole. It’s almost as if Tucker is completely his own entity and not part of a deliberate team system.

    Point is, the constant anti Harden narratives from the world wide leader of sports needs a more aggressive counter narrative by another media entity and the organization as a whole. I’d think winning would cure some but in reality, this anti-Harden bias has always been there, it’s just getting even more unchecked.
     
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    media conspiracy
     
  4. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    On Giannis -
    On Harden -
     
  5. macan

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    the best way to shut them up is to win the ship this year
    bspn is known for hating on Harden and Rockets related
    **** them! don't give them click views
     
  6. lkrockets

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    This seems like an anti-rox-narrative narrative. James Harden DOESN'T hold a candle to Freak in the paint. But the article certainly doesn't equate that observation with some more global comparison about their value. The first part of that quote acknowledges that Harden is "a master scorer."

    The article is pretty favorable to Harden. It doesn't mention Harden BY NAME, but it clearly has Harden in mind when it says, re: Tucker, "But Tucker's success in the corners is a team accomplishment -- he's just the punctuation mark at the end of tactical sentences designed to create these opportunities."

    Then it says re: Harden: "NBA 3s are assisted more than 80 percent of the time, but that doesn't apply to Harden, who leads the NBA in both made 3s and scoring, thanks in part to his raining down more unassisted triples than anyone in the league. . . . Incredibly, Harden 3s are assisted only 12 percent of the time. He is to the unassisted 3 what Giannis is to the unassisted dunk. Love him or loathe him, between Harden's 3-point assists and his step-back, this fella is the single biggest 3-point factory in an NBA obsessed with 3-point production."

    So relax. The article is about appreciating which players are better from which parts of the court. It should acknowledge Giannis as far superior to Harden in the paint, and it should acknowledge that Harden is the best at the skill that everyone else in the modern NBA is trying to master.
     
  7. steddinotayto

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    Players that have finished in the TOP 2 for the MVP award in the past 20 years:

    Shaquille O'Neal - 2 times; 1 win
    Tim Duncan - 4 times; 2 wins
    Dirk Nowitzki - 1 time; 1 win
    Kevin Garnett - 3 times ; 1 win
    Kobe Bryant - 2 times; 1 win
    Steven Nash - 3 times; 2 wins
    LeBron James - 7 times; 4 wins
    Kevin Durant - 4 times; 1 win
    James Harden - 3 times; 1 win
    Steph Curry - 2 times; 2 wins
    Russell Westbrook - 1 time; 1 win


    If you just pull data from the time Harden was traded to Houston:

    Lebron James - 3 times; 1 win
    Kevin Durant - 2 times; 1 win
    Steph Curry - 2 times; 2 wins
    James Harden - 3 times; 1 win
    Russell Westbrook - 1 time; 1 win
     
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    This is getting out of hand!

    Provides ESPN Link to drive more traffic (revenue) to their website.
     
  9. Haymitch

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    So I don't have to click the link - who authored that article?
     
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    Appreciate your response but the don’t click it argument is old and akin to just putting your head in the sand and allow narratives to go unabated. I guess that is a rational choice but only really works in a non-competitive environment.
     
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    we just need to win games and we'll shut them all up. If we could add some more depth somehow ... then it wouldn't matter whatever they say
     
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    Wait people use their time caring about ESPN still?
     
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    definitely wasn't thread worthy. moving on
     
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    Don't care.

    DD
     
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  16. steddinotayto

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    I just clicked on the article and OP is spinning/interpreting this the wrong way.

    If you actually open up the article and read the content:

    KG1.JPG

    KG2.JPG


     
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    Anti LeBron James and Stephen Curry article as well. They aren’t even among the best scorers at the various points on the floor the article describes. Oh the horror.
     
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    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    There is NOTHING wrong with this article. Just says that Harden and Tucker are BOSSES

    HARDEN
    NBA 3s are assisted more than 80 percent of the time, but that doesn't apply to Harden, who leads the NBA in both made 3s and scoring, thanks in part to his raining down more unassisted triples than anyone in the league.

    Incredibly, Harden 3s are assisted only 12 percent of the time. He is to the unassisted 3 what Giannis is to the unassisted dunk. Love him or loathe him, between Harden's 3-point assists and his step-back, this fella is the single biggest 3-point factory in an NBA obsessed with 3-point production.


    TUCKER
    The analytics darlings
    Corner 3s

    If it's true that corner 3s are the smartest jump shots in basketball, PJ Tucker is the Albert Einstein of hoops. Tucker is the leading scorer from both corners. He has made 46 corner 3s in his first 29 games this season. But Tucker's success in the corners is a team accomplishment -- he's just the punctuation mark at the end of tactical sentences designed to create these opportunities.

    Corner 3s are the most assist-dependent shot on the court. More than 95 percent of corner triples involve assists so far this season, and every single one of Tucker's has come off the catch.

    Tucker's corner numbers are still an impressive individual accomplishment and a good indicator for the Rockets. Tucker is now the preeminent corner specialist in the NBA: 81 percent of his 3s have come from the corners, and he has knocked down 46 percent of his tries from that area.
     
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    I don't even care about the MVP narrative. The one that bothers me is the one undermines Harden's greatness and his 'watchability'. Can we talk about that?

    We are talking about one of the most offensively dominant players to ever play the game here. And what's more, he does it in a way that nobody has ever done it before. Go ahead and try to name a player who Harden's game resembles. I'll wait.

    I can understand how people don't find watching free throws exciting, but what about the fact that, more often than not, his free throws come in an and 1 situation because he's just too strong to stop? What about a kind of basketball genius and creativity like no one has ever displayed before? What about a unique skill set we've never seen in a shooting guard (strength and and his ability to decelerate are probably his two best physical abilities). What about a 30 point per game scorer that can also dish 10+ assists on any given night? And how in the world is not fun to watch a guy rack up 50 point triple doubles FOUR TIMES?

    Harden is a strange player and personality. His game is quirky and crafty and sneaky and strong. He is not an elite athlete by NBA terms and yet the most elite athletes in the NBA struggle to slow him down. How is that not fun? I wish these people would learn to appreciate the game of a truly special and one of a kind player.

    That said, MCW should start ahead of him.
     
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