Laws are on the books to suspend and/or revoke licenses due to one or multiple DUIs, thus the process already exists for folks to lose their legal driving privilege. Whether or not the legal system decides to enforce those penalties is a whole other story. EDIT: And I know people who have had their licenses suspended due to DUI.
Absolutely I agree. The problem still stands in this case though, I don't think having those things in place stops this particular killing from happening. It may for others but not this one.
I think it would have. His mother was even afraid of him. Having more support for vets who have ptsd. I bet if you look at the stats of violence either domestic or self inflicted(suicide) of vets you will see there is more that needs to be done.
I think it is a few reasons, because we've had pretty much unfettered access to guns for 200 years, but these things seem to be more prevalent. Perhaps they always happened, but now we get 24 hour news cycles and instant social media? For as horrible as it was in some cases, we used to remove mentally ill people from society and lock them up in mental hospitals at a much more frequent rate. These facilities were basically shut down in the 70s and those types of mentally ill people have been back into society. In this particular case: we've been fighting insurgency style wars for almost 2 decades, and that takes a toll on those that serve. I read an interesting article that mentioned that lack of a major war in which we've conscripted young men in 40 years may have something to do with it. In that past, almost every generations' youth with the capacity to do this type of violence would have been sent to war where their tendencies would have either gotten them killed or they would have excelled at war and become heroes with no reason to commit this style of violence upon returning home. Basically a major conscription war filters a lot of violence out of society. Social media and news cycles encourage people to commit these types of acts as they will have instant notoriety. Additionally, people with these types of issues can now find similarly like minded individuals via the internet that may encourage them, whereas in the past, they would have never met anyone with these types of sociopath tendencies and not acted out.
This...even if we banned guns and made it illegal to own them, there are too many. People that would want to commit violence would be able to get them anyways.
Yeah, so why have restrictions at all? If felons or people that are not mentally stable want to have guns why try and keep them from it? Let them have them because they will always be able to get them anyway.
Well, if I'm arguing that we're special, it's not in a good way. Despite our boasts about freedom, we're not the most free country in the world. Change some of that, and you'll change (at least) some of this behavior.
Spot on, on all points. But you left out the feminism/broken homes/drugged up kids part. I have heard that more than 90% of the mass shooters here in the US are the products of broken homes, and were placed on some kind of psychological meds. That alone is a recipe for disaster.
Yea, that's not what anyone is saying. @Supermac34 was quoting me and I was just pointing out that there are 400+ million guns in circulation. The mainstream suggestions that have been posited would be like trying to empty Lake Conroe with a coffee mug. Cool lets ban bump-stocks Cool lets ban high capacity magazines Cool let's have more background checks Cool let's close the gun show loophole. Even if you do these things --> There are still 400 - 600 million guns out there. If you're determined to get one, you probably can without too much difficulty. What's the answer to really fixing this problem? Idk but the suggestions like the type I listed out won't stop anything.
It's not as easy as you seem to think, especially since most of the institutions that used to house such people are now gone.
Ban all guns with buyback and vigorous enforcement, and maybe we can bend the curve a bit 20 years from now. We created this problem over several centuries; we won't fix it in a day.
It's not a mental illness? https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/post-traumatic-stress-disorder-ptsd/index.shtml
I was responding to your post in which you said people with ptsd shouldn't own guns. So i responded about ptsd Dont be an ass. Should not have had to answer that twice
I did quote him but the argument is actually posed to all of those that say no kind of gun bans will work because the criminals will still get the guns anyway. I just don't agree with that logic because if that is a reason to not move forward with any legislation then why not strike down the existing legislation right now.
I don't think someone with PTSD should be able to own a firearm. I believe someone with PTSD that gets therapy could eventually be cleared by their therapist to own a firearm again but with regular therapy visits.
