I will never understand why people who know they have skeletons in their closets open themselves up for such ridicule.
So are we going to list every politician that is a cheat, had an affair, etc? That's going to be one heck of a long list with a lot of Republicans AND Democrats. Glynch, your posts make it seem like you're intimating that the entire Republican party is out cheating, stealing, lying, etc. I was vocal about my opposition to Clinton's perjury and the disgusting nature of his acts. He was wrong then, and now this guy is wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right, it just means we have two wrong politicians running around.
No we are going to name outspoken hypocrites, who call someone when in fact they are producing child p*rn. What Clinton did was wrong no question, but to attempt to get him removed from office while they are doing something much more vile deserves a comment at the very least.
I'd rather be on HBO anyway. I likes to curse after all. Plus, maybe I could do a guest shot on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
LOL, so you libs think that this unknown pedophile represents the Republican Party? When the Democrats lose more seats during the next congressional elections, you will have this article to reread to make yourselves feel better. By the way, when Clinton took office the Democrats had a majority of the Governerships and control of both houses. Good job Bill.
comment all you want...the guy deserves a jail cell, and little else. but don't pretend this private fundraiser is the face of the republican party. clinton was our freaking president when he was lying under oath. kinda different.
He was a no-name private fundraiser right, keep defending your party at all cost boys no matter how bad it makes you look. At least we have the guts to admit Clinton was disgusting, while you'll make excuses for a pedophiles actions. You can't admit this fool should have kept his mouth shut instead of bashing Clinton while he produces child p*rn?
I understand the thread dedicated to this one fundraiser, but glynch was branching out into Newt's indiscretions. Do you really wanna start the Republicans pointing out all the outspoken hypocrites (Jesse Jackson) on the other side of the aisle? It seems like it was taken as a weak excuse by some to bash Republicans in general.
I agree with your post more the most part. There is however a long list of Republicans now who went out of their way to get Clinton removed from office who committed act much worse than his adultery. Remember the last Republican presidents the Democrates went after were Nixon and Reagan. Watergate and Iran/ Contra are more important to the nation than oral sex from a legally consenting adult.
For roughly the 1,000,000th time: HE WAS NOT IMPEACHED FOR ORAL SEX! HE WAS NO IMPEACHED FOR ORAL SEX! HE WAS NOT IMPEACHED FOR ORAL SEX! He was a defendant in a sexual harassment suit. Within that suit, certain questions were asked of him about his sexual relations with other employees/underlings. He was asked about specific individuals. He lied under oath and said he had never had sexual relations with his White House intern, Monica Lewinsky. This is the kind of information that would be crucial for the plaintiff to prove that this was a regular course of action for Bill. But he lied...knowingly...to keep them from that information. Where I'm from, that's called perjury. It's not the best of ideas...particularly if you're the chief of the executive office of the United States of America.
Of course, if we limit the discussion to Iran/Contra vs. Monica, we're going to see that as important vs. frivilous. But I would maintain that this modern era of attack politics really started with the Robert Bork nomination (and some would say it really started with the silly "October Surprise" investigation, though I think the Bork issue was the real turning point) where the desire to just find something, no matter what, to defeat his nomination to the Supreme Court set the precedent for future "investigations" by either party. So, I could couch the debate as Democrats investigating what movies Robert Bork rented vs. Republicans investigating shady land deals in Arkansas and make it appear that it was the Dems who were frivilous and the Republicans who were looking into a serious allegation. But neither your way nor my way gives the overall view of how attack politics has evolved in the last 15 to 20 years. Neither party has a monopoly on attack politics.
I'm not talking about what the pedophile did to the girl, i'm talking about what he said about Clinton while he was taking advantage of someone underage. If that wasn't clear then I hope this made is so, but please johnheath continue to nitpick the worst possible circumstance out of everyone. Once again your attempt to divert the focus away from the main issue has failed. Now go start another thread proves conclusively we have found WMD.
As I recall he wasn't impeached for anything, the whole exercise was absurd and should have never gone so far. It was a witch hunt that not only wasted time and money and made Clinton more popular in the end. To argue that this whole debacle was somehow justified when many who were trying to get him impeached were or had done much worse is ridiculous. Chris Webber lied under oath to a Grand Jury as well, should he lose his job with the Kings and go to jail?
He should be held accountable under the rule of law. A private citizen can be more easily held accountable for his actions. The only way a sitting President can be made to be truly held accountable is for him to be impeached and removed from office. While I also agree that it should not have happened in this case, there aren't as many options for dealing with perjurers who are sitting in the Oval Office as there are for perjurers who play for professional basketball teams.
ummmm..you recall incorrectly. he was absolutely impeached. only the 2nd president in american history to be impeached. he was not removed from office. witch hunt?? the man lied under oath in a civil trial. ken starr didn't set that up. he lied under oath in discovery responses and before a grand jury. how can we place faith in a judicial system if we let people get away with lying in court? what's the point of a judicial system if we all could lie under oath like that? chris webber is employed by a private organization, the sacramento kings...he has a contract with them. president clinton swore to uphold the laws of this nation...and then he perjured himself. big difference. by the way...president clinton did lose his arkansas law license for this.
